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Re: "monty" < "python"

From Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject Re: "monty" < "python"
Date 2013-03-23 16:17 +0000
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On 23/03/2013 09:24, jmfauth wrote:
> On 20 mar, 22:02, Tim Delaney <tim.dela...@aptare.com> wrote:
>> On 21 March 2013 06:40, jmfauth <wxjmfa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ----
>>> [snip usual rant from jmf]
>>
>
>
>>
>> It has been acknowledged as a real regression, but he keeps hijacking every
>> thread where strings are mentioned to harp on about it. He has shown no
>> inclination to attempt to *fix* the regression and is rapidly coming to be
>> regarded as a troll by most participants in this list.
>>
>
> ---------
>
> I can not help to fix it, because it is "unfixable". It
> is "unfixable", because this flexible string representation
> is wrong by design.
>
> jmf
>

Of course it's fixable.  All you need do is write a PEP clearing stating 
what is wrong with the implementation detailed in PEP393 and your own 
proposed design.  I'm looking forward to reading this PEP.

Note that going backwards to buggier unicode implementations that 
existed in Python prior to version 3.3 is simply not an option.

-- 
Cheers.

Mark Lawrence

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"monty" < "python" franzferdinand <melo.dumoulin@hotmail.com> - 2013-03-20 06:33 -0700
  Re: "monty" < "python" Jan Oelze <jan@codein.is> - 2013-03-20 14:38 +0100
    Re: "monty" < "python" Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-03-20 09:58 -0400
      Re: "monty" < "python" franzferdinand <melo.dumoulin@hotmail.com> - 2013-03-20 07:03 -0700
        Re: "monty" < "python" Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-03-21 04:08 -0400
          Re: "monty" < "python" Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-03-21 08:45 -0400
            Re: "monty" < "python" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-03-21 23:55 +1100
            Re: "monty" < "python" Wayne Werner <wayne@waynewerner.com> - 2013-03-21 07:56 -0500
            Re: "monty" < "python" Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-03-21 09:02 -0400
  Re: "monty" < "python" "R. Michael Weylandt" <michael.weylandt@gmail.com> - 2013-03-20 13:40 +0000
  Re: "monty" < "python" Ian Foote <ian@feete.org> - 2013-03-20 14:17 +0000
  Re: "monty" < "python" Jan Oelze <jan@codein.is> - 2013-03-20 15:23 +0100
  Re: "monty" < "python" Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-03-20 16:04 +0000
    Re: "monty" < "python" jmfauth <wxjmfauth@gmail.com> - 2013-03-20 12:40 -0700
      Re: "monty" < "python" Tim Delaney <tim.delaney@aptare.com> - 2013-03-21 08:02 +1100
        Re: "monty" < "python" jmfauth <wxjmfauth@gmail.com> - 2013-03-23 02:24 -0700
          Re: "monty" < "python" Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-03-23 16:17 +0000
            Re: "monty" < "python" jmfauth <wxjmfauth@gmail.com> - 2013-03-24 06:31 -0700
              Re: "monty" < "python" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-03-25 00:44 +1100
              Re: "monty" < "python" Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-03-24 14:08 +0000
      Re: "monty" < "python" Michael Torrie <torriem@gmail.com> - 2013-03-20 19:41 -0600
      Re: "monty" < "python" Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-03-21 02:52 +0000
      Re: "monty" < "python" rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-03-20 20:12 -0700
        Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"] Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2013-03-21 04:28 +0000
          Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"] Larry Hudson <orgnut@yahoo.com> - 2013-03-20 23:26 -0700
            Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"] David H Wild <dhwild@talktalk.net> - 2013-03-21 09:36 +0000
              Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-03-21 21:09 +1100
                Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"] Peter Pearson <ppearson@nowhere.invalid> - 2013-03-21 21:52 +0000
                Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-03-22 08:59 +1100
              Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"] istjanichtzufassen@gmail.com - 2013-03-21 06:26 -0700
                Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"] Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-03-22 00:38 +1100
          Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"] Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-03-21 17:31 +0000
            Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"] Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2013-03-21 19:05 -0400
              Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"] Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-03-21 20:09 -0400
              Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"] Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2013-03-22 14:14 +0000
            Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"] Stefan Behnel <stefan_ml@behnel.de> - 2013-03-24 15:25 +0100
              Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"] rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2013-03-24 08:04 -0700
            Re: Vowels [was Re: "monty" < "python"] Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-03-24 16:12 +0000
        Re: "monty" < "python" jmfauth <wxjmfauth@gmail.com> - 2013-03-23 02:23 -0700
          Re: "monty" < "python" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-03-23 20:45 +1100
          Re: "monty" < "python" Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-03-23 20:56 +1100
          Re: "monty" < "python" Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-03-23 16:06 +0000

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