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RE: Right solution to unicode error?

From "Prasad, Ramit" <ramit.prasad@jpmorgan.com>
Subject RE: Right solution to unicode error?
Date 2012-11-08 20:54 +0000
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wxjmfauth@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Le jeudi 8 novembre 2012 19:49:24 UTC+1, Ian a écrit :
> > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Oscar Benjamin
> >
> > <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > If I want the other characters to work I need to change the code page:
> > >
> > > O:\>chcp 65001
> > > Active code page: 65001
> > >
> > > O:\>Q:\tools\Python33\python -c "import sys;
> > > sys.stdout.buffer.write('\u03b1\n'.encode('utf-8'))"
> > > α
> > >
> > > O:\>Q:\tools\Python33\python -c "import sys;
> > > sys.stdout.buffer.write('\u03b1\n'.encode(sys.stdout.en
> > > coding))"
> > > α
> >
> > I find that I also need to change the font.  With the default font,
> >
> > printing '\u2013' gives me:
> > –
> >
> > The only alternative font option I have in Windows XP is Lucida
> > Console, which at least works correctly, although it seems to be
> > lacking a lot of glyphs.
> 
> --------
> 
> Font has nothing to do here.
> You are "simply" wrongly encoding your "unicode".
> 


Why would font not matter? Unicode is the abstract definition 
of all characters right? From that we map the abstract 
character to a code page/set, which gives real values for an
abstract character. From that code page we then visually display 
the "real value" based on the font. If that font does
not have a glyph for a specific character page (or a different
glyph) then that is a problem and not related encoding. 

Unicode->code page->font


> >>> '\u2013'
> '–'
> >>> '\u2013'.encode('utf-8')
> b'\xe2\x80\x93'
> >>> '\u2013'.encode('utf-8').decode('cp1252')
> '–'
> 

This is a mismatched translation between code pages; not
font related but is instead one abstraction "level" up. 


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Right solution to unicode error? Anders <aschneiderman@asha.org> - 2012-11-07 14:17 -0800
  RE: Right solution to unicode error? "Prasad, Ramit" <ramit.prasad@jpmorgan.com> - 2012-11-07 23:07 +0000
  Re: Right solution to unicode error? Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2012-11-07 23:27 +0000
  Re: Right solution to unicode error? Andrew Berg <bahamutzero8825@gmail.com> - 2012-11-07 17:51 -0600
  Re: Right solution to unicode error? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2012-11-07 23:53 +0000
    Re: Right solution to unicode error? Hans Mulder <hansmu@xs4all.nl> - 2012-11-08 12:40 +0100
  Re: Right solution to unicode error? Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2012-11-08 00:44 +0000
  Re: Right solution to unicode error? wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-11-08 03:01 -0800
  RE: Right solution to unicode error? Anders Schneiderman <ASchneiderman@asha.org> - 2012-11-08 09:00 -0500
  Re: Right solution to unicode error? Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2012-11-08 14:06 +0000
    Re: Right solution to unicode error? wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-11-08 07:05 -0800
      Re: Right solution to unicode error? Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2012-11-08 18:32 +0000
        Re: Right solution to unicode error? wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-11-08 11:30 -0800
        Re: Right solution to unicode error? wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-11-08 11:30 -0800
      Re: Right solution to unicode error? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-11-08 11:48 -0700
        Re: Right solution to unicode error? wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-11-08 11:54 -0800
          Re: Right solution to unicode error? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-11-08 13:41 -0700
            Re: Right solution to unicode error? wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-11-09 02:06 -0800
          RE: Right solution to unicode error? "Prasad, Ramit" <ramit.prasad@jpmorgan.com> - 2012-11-08 20:54 +0000
          Re: Right solution to unicode error? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2012-11-08 14:07 -0700
          Re: Right solution to unicode error? Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2012-11-08 21:37 +0000
        Re: Right solution to unicode error? wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2012-11-08 11:54 -0800
  Re: Right solution to unicode error? Andrew Berg <bahamutzero8825@gmail.com> - 2012-11-08 21:30 -0600

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