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Re: Why are timezone aware and naive datetimes not distinct classes?

Subject Re: Why are timezone aware and naive datetimes not distinct classes?
From Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam@whitemice.org>
Date 2013-03-11 13:27 -0400
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On Fri, 2013-03-08 at 13:41 -0500, Roy Smith wrote:
> To make a long (and painful) story short, I've got a (large) list of 
> datetimes, and was getting some bizarre errors working with it.  One of 
> the things I tried while debugging the problem was verifying that all 
> the elements of the list were indeed datetimes:
> In [59]:  set(type(foo) for foo in x)
> Out[59]:  set([datetime.datetime]

Because date/time management in Python is *@*&@R&*(R *@&Y terrible!
Period, full-stop, awful, crappy, lousy, and aggravating.  The design is
haphazard and error inducing.

Pass through the list once and convert them all the UTC [or I suppose,
make them all naive].

BTW, this page is a life and sanity saver:

<http://taaviburns.ca/what_you_need_to_know_about_datetimes/datetime_transforms.html>

And one of my own tricks is posted here:

<http://www.whitemiceconsulting.com/2012/10/setting-course-for-utc.html>

> Well, it turns out, one of them was a timezone-aware datetime, and all 
> the others were naive!  I finally figured it out when I tried

Welcome!

-- 
Adam Tauno Williams  GPG D95ED383
Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA

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Why are timezone aware and naive datetimes not distinct classes? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-03-08 13:41 -0500
  Re: Why are timezone aware and naive datetimes not distinct classes? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2013-03-08 21:33 +0000
    Re: Why are timezone aware and naive datetimes not distinct classes? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-03-09 09:01 +1100
      Re: Why are timezone aware and naive datetimes not distinct classes? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2013-03-09 19:14 +0000
        Re: Why are timezone aware and naive datetimes not distinct classes? Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-03-09 14:40 -0500
          Re: Why are timezone aware and naive datetimes not distinct classes? Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2013-03-09 23:38 +0000
        Re: Why are timezone aware and naive datetimes not distinct classes? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-03-10 09:28 +1100
  Re: Why are timezone aware and naive datetimes not distinct classes? Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam@whitemice.org> - 2013-03-11 13:27 -0400
    Re: Why are timezone aware and naive datetimes not distinct classes? djc <djc@kangoo.invalid> - 2013-03-11 20:32 +0000

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