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Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit.

From Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Subject Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit.
Date 2015-12-20 11:21 -0500
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On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 12:25:30 +0100, "Skybuck Flying"
<skybuck2000@hotmail.com> declaimed the following:

>
>This does make me wonder how Windows 7 terminates threads/processes/hanging 
>applications.
>
>Apperently there is some kind of mechanism for this.
>
	And if you've done it you'll have seen warnings about possible data
corruption or further misbehavior of the system.

>Perhaps it's not fully exposed to application developers or perhaps in a 
>somewhat more complex way via all kinds of APIs ?
>

	Of course it is exposed... It's even called TerminateProcess

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms686714%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

>An example of how to terminate threads/processes instantly on Windows 7 
>could be interesting.

	There is also TerminateThread

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms686717%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

but note all the caveats about its use. Along with those of
TerminateProcess. In both cases the preferred method is for the
process/thread ITSELF to call Exit(Process|Thread) in response to some
other signal that it reads.


	Killing a process is usually "safe" -- the OS process information table
gives it access to the open file descriptors, memory allocation, etc. so
the OS can force close/release of resources.

	Killing threads is NOT "safe" -- since they share memory/resources with
the other threads in the process.
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	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

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(Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. "Skybuck Flying" <skybuck2000@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-19 18:56 +0100
  Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-19 21:27 -0500
  Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-12-20 14:44 +1100
  Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. "Skybuck Flying" <skybuck2000@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-20 12:25 +0100
    Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-20 11:21 -0500
    Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. eryk sun <eryksun@gmail.com> - 2015-12-20 22:04 -0600
    Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. "Skybuck Flying" <skybuck2000@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-21 13:40 +0100
      Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-21 12:57 -0500
        Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2015-12-21 19:32 +0000
          Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. "Skybuck Flying" <skybuck2000@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-29 12:25 +0100
            Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-12-30 00:22 +1100
              Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. "Skybuck Flying" <skybuck2000@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-29 22:43 +0100
                Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-12-30 11:00 +1100
                Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. "Skybuck Flying" <skybuck2000@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-03 02:18 +0100
                Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2016-01-03 19:44 +1100
                Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. "Skybuck Flying" <skybuck2000@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-08 12:59 +0100
          Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. "Skybuck Flying" <skybuck2000@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-29 12:42 +0100
      Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. "Skybuck Flying" <skybuck2000@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-22 16:46 +0100
        Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 02:56 +1100
          Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. "Skybuck Flying" <skybuck2000@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-29 12:23 +0100
  Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 20:07 -0800
    Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. Steven D'Aprano <steve@pearwood.info> - 2015-12-30 23:56 +1100
      Re: (Execution) Termination bit, Alternation bit. Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-30 12:19 -0500

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