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Re: Dictionaries with tuples or tuples of tuples

Date 2013-02-18 22:14 -0500
From Dave Angel <davea@davea.name>
Subject Re: Dictionaries with tuples or tuples of tuples
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On 02/18/2013 09:54 PM, Mitya Sirenef wrote:
> On 02/18/2013 09:17 PM, Jon Reyes wrote:
>> Thanks Dave and Mitya for  enlightening me about dictionaries. I'm
>> still confused about this though:
>  >
>  > " so that if two
>  > key objects are equal, they stay equal, and if they differ, they stay
>  > different. "
>  >
>  > What does this mean? I won't be comparing key objects with one
> another. Also, when I had two keys with the same value the value of the
> other key disappeared so I assume in runtime if there are multiple keys
> of the same value only the last one will appear.
>
> You won't be, but dict will.
>
> Dict is by definition a mapping where a value is assigned to a unique
> key. If you have two keys and two values, and then change one key to
> be equal to the second key, that's not kosher, because which value it's
> supposed to return when you try to get it by that key?
>
> So in effect, key's hash value should not change. If key is immutable,
> you can be certain that it's hash value will not change. If it's
> mutable, you have to make sure not to change the key in a way that'd
> make its hash value different than it was.
>
>   -m
>

It's a little stronger than that, since equal hashes cannot assure equal 
data.  The equality of each object pair in a dict must not change over 
time, not just the hashes of the individual objects.

-- 
DaveA

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Dictionaries with tuples or tuples of tuples Jon Reyes <everystepsayes@gmail.com> - 2013-02-18 16:52 -0800
  Re: Dictionaries with tuples or tuples of tuples Mitya Sirenef <msirenef@lightbird.net> - 2013-02-18 20:11 -0500
    Re: Dictionaries with tuples or tuples of tuples Jon Reyes <everystepsayes@gmail.com> - 2013-02-18 17:19 -0800
    Re: Dictionaries with tuples or tuples of tuples Jon Reyes <everystepsayes@gmail.com> - 2013-02-18 17:19 -0800
  Re: Dictionaries with tuples or tuples of tuples Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2013-02-18 20:17 -0500
    Re: Dictionaries with tuples or tuples of tuples Jon Reyes <everystepsayes@gmail.com> - 2013-02-18 17:20 -0800
  Re: Dictionaries with tuples or tuples of tuples Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-02-19 01:37 +0000
    Re: Dictionaries with tuples or tuples of tuples Jon Reyes <everystepsayes@gmail.com> - 2013-02-18 17:38 -0800
      Re: Dictionaries with tuples or tuples of tuples Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-02-18 20:51 -0500
      Re: Dictionaries with tuples or tuples of tuples Mitya Sirenef <msirenef@lightbird.net> - 2013-02-18 20:56 -0500
      Re: Dictionaries with tuples or tuples of tuples Jon Reyes <everystepsayes@gmail.com> - 2013-02-18 18:17 -0800
        Re: Dictionaries with tuples or tuples of tuples Mitya Sirenef <msirenef@lightbird.net> - 2013-02-18 21:54 -0500
        Re: Dictionaries with tuples or tuples of tuples Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2013-02-18 22:14 -0500
        Re: Dictionaries with tuples or tuples of tuples Mitya Sirenef <msirenef@lightbird.net> - 2013-02-18 22:56 -0500
      Re: Dictionaries with tuples or tuples of tuples Jon Reyes <everystepsayes@gmail.com> - 2013-02-18 18:17 -0800
      Re: Dictionaries with tuples or tuples of tuples Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-02-19 02:34 +0000
        Re: Dictionaries with tuples or tuples of tuples Jon Reyes <everystepsayes@gmail.com> - 2013-02-18 18:39 -0800
        Re: Dictionaries with tuples or tuples of tuples Jon Reyes <everystepsayes@gmail.com> - 2013-02-18 18:39 -0800
    Re: Dictionaries with tuples or tuples of tuples Jon Reyes <everystepsayes@gmail.com> - 2013-02-18 17:38 -0800

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