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Re: What behavior would you expect?

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On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 7:03 AM, Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On the one hand, the return type of a function (when it returns, rather
> than raising an exception) should be consistent to itself, even if using
> a language where types are not declared.
>

Yes, so I'd advise against having a function sometimes return a string
and sometimes a dict. Sure. But None gets a bit of a special pass
here; in a lot of languages, what you'd have is a "nullable" type (eg
in C you might declare the return value as "pointer to char", and
either return a pointer to a string, or NULL), but in Python, you
return None for the special case. So in a sense, "str or None" is not
so inconsistent.

> I guess at the end of the day the programmer has to consider and
> determine which is most appropriate to his application, given the case.

Indeed. But knowing that your caller quite possibly won't check, what
would you do, to increase the chances of the unexpected being noticed?
Again, it comes down to expectations. If 25% of queries are going to
return "nothing found", then having that be the empty string is fine -
you can be pretty sure your users will test for it. But if that's an
extremely rare case, then it may be worth raising an exception
instead, so it's safe even if someone forgets to test for the unusual.

ChrisA

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What behavior would you expect? Jason Friedman <jsf80238@gmail.com> - 2015-02-18 21:44 -0700
  Re: What behavior would you expect? Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2015-02-19 14:16 +0000
    Re: What behavior would you expect? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-02-20 02:08 +1100
      Re: What behavior would you expect? Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2015-02-19 20:03 +0000
        Re: What behavior would you expect? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-02-20 07:11 +1100
          Re: What behavior would you expect? Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> - 2015-02-20 04:54 +0000
            Re: What behavior would you expect? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-02-20 16:16 +1100
              Re: What behavior would you expect? Dan Sommers <dan@tombstonezero.net> - 2015-02-20 05:40 +0000
                Re: What behavior would you expect? Jason Friedman <jsf80238@gmail.com> - 2015-02-19 22:49 -0700
                Re: What behavior would you expect? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-02-19 22:18 -0800
                Re: What behavior would you expect? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-02-20 17:21 +1100
                Re: What behavior would you expect? Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2015-02-19 23:18 -0800

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