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Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience

From Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience
Date 2015-05-06 21:13 +0100
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On 06/05/2015 17:03, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Wed, 6 May 2015 10:40 pm, BartC wrote:
>
>> But I had in mind not implementing ++ and --, but detecting them and
>> issuing a warning,
>
> That's a job for a linter, not the compiler. The compiler should be as
> flexible as possible in what it accepts:
>
>
> a   ,    b=12+3     *          4,"hello"          .      upper   ()
>
>
> is perfectly legal code. The compiler shouldn't force you to write good
> looking code, apart from what is prohibited altogether.
>
> Both + and - are unary prefix operators, so you can apply + and - to any
> expression -- even an expression that already has a unary prefix operator:
>
> py> -     --- +++ + - - + -- +++ --- 999
> -999
>
>
> Is that ugly, horrible code that nobody in their right mind would use in
> production? Absolutely. But the compiler can and should accept it, and
> linters (or human reviewers) should warn about it.
>

Linters were mentioned a day or two back.  Take a horse to water...

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

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Bitten by my C/Java experience Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-05-04 17:20 +0200
  Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> - 2015-05-04 10:18 -0700
  Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Irmen de Jong <irmen.NOSPAM@xs4all.nl> - 2015-05-04 19:32 +0200
    Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-05 03:40 +1000
      Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-05-08 10:47 +0000
        Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-08 21:32 +1000
  Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-05-04 11:43 -0600
    Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Andrew Cooper <amc96@cam.ac.uk> - 2015-05-04 21:57 +0100
      Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience random832@fastmail.us - 2015-05-04 17:16 -0400
      Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2015-05-04 16:26 -0500
  Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-05-04 18:59 +0100
  Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-05-04 13:39 -0600
    Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-05-04 22:28 +0200
      Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2015-05-04 19:17 -0400
  Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-05-04 16:06 -0400
  Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-05-04 23:02 +0100
    Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-05 18:19 +1000
      Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-05-05 14:20 +0100
        Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-05-05 09:24 -0700
          Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-05-06 14:38 +0200
            Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-05-06 06:03 -0700
        Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2015-05-06 23:19 +1200
          Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-05-06 13:40 +0100
            Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-07 02:03 +1000
              Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-05-06 21:13 +0100
      Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2015-05-06 23:15 +1200
    Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience random832@fastmail.us - 2015-05-06 09:11 -0400
    Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-06 23:16 +1000

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