Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience

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Date	2015-05-06 23:16 +1000
Subject	Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience
From	Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.python
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On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 11:11 PM,  <random832@fastmail.us> wrote:
> On Mon, May 4, 2015, at 18:02, BartC wrote:
>> (I think I would have picked up "++" and "--" as special tokens even if
>> increment/decrement ops weren't supported. Just because they would
>> likely cause errors through misunderstanding.)
>
> There's precedent for not doing this in C itself - even though "=+"
> (from very early versions of C, also =-, =*, =&) no longer acts as an
> add-in-place operator, it's not recognized as a special token to prevent
> errors either.

Given that the in-place operators changed to +=, -=, etc very early
on, I doubt there's anyone who is actually confused by them. And it'd
be extremely annoying to have to stop and think about parsing rules
when taking or dereferencing pointers:

/* This works */
x = &y;

/* Why shouldn't this? */
x=&y;

To the greatest extent possible, spaces around assignment operators
should be the domain of style guides, not syntax.

ChrisA

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Bitten by my C/Java experience Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-05-04 17:20 +0200
  Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Tobiah <toby@tobiah.org> - 2015-05-04 10:18 -0700
  Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Irmen de Jong <irmen.NOSPAM@xs4all.nl> - 2015-05-04 19:32 +0200
    Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-05 03:40 +1000
      Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl (Albert van der Horst) - 2015-05-08 10:47 +0000
        Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-08 21:32 +1000
  Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-05-04 11:43 -0600
    Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Andrew Cooper <amc96@cam.ac.uk> - 2015-05-04 21:57 +0100
      Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience random832@fastmail.us - 2015-05-04 17:16 -0400
      Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2015-05-04 16:26 -0500
  Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-05-04 18:59 +0100
  Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2015-05-04 13:39 -0600
    Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Cecil Westerhof <Cecil@decebal.nl> - 2015-05-04 22:28 +0200
      Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Dave Angel <davea@davea.name> - 2015-05-04 19:17 -0400
  Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2015-05-04 16:06 -0400
  Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-05-04 23:02 +0100
    Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-05 18:19 +1000
      Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-05-05 14:20 +0100
        Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-05-05 09:24 -0700
          Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Antoon Pardon <antoon.pardon@rece.vub.ac.be> - 2015-05-06 14:38 +0200
            Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com> - 2015-05-06 06:03 -0700
        Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2015-05-06 23:19 +1200
          Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-05-06 13:40 +0100
            Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2015-05-07 02:03 +1000
              Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-05-06 21:13 +0100
      Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Gregory Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2015-05-06 23:15 +1200
    Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience random832@fastmail.us - 2015-05-06 09:11 -0400
    Re: Bitten by my C/Java experience Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2015-05-06 23:16 +1000

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