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Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection

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Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> writes:

> 'Easy there Rainman

I'll thank you not to use mental deficiency as some kind of insult.
Calling someone “Rainman” is to use autistic people as the punchline of
a joke. We're a community that doesn't welcome such ableist slurs.

> The goal of the exercise was:
>
> - Read a file the user specifies via command line redirection
> - When the file is fully read, return to reading keyboard
>   input with things like raw_input and get_pass which I believe
>   use stdin as a source ... probably to avoid having to manually
>   cope with ttys and ptys themselves. One of those two functions -
>   I don't recall which - was giving me a problem with stdin
> redirected.

Thank you for clarifying. 

I think the request is incoherent: If you want to allow the user to
primarily interact with the program, this is incompatible with also
wanting to redirect standard input.

Rather, you should add to your program an option to allow specifying a
file to read, and present usage examples that don't redirect standard
input.

> In the end, I broke down and added a command line parameter to
> specify which file to read in so that stdin would be unaffected.

That's the right solution, I'd say.

> Now that I think about it, as I recall from the prehistoric era of
> writing lots of assembler and C, if you use shell redirection, stdin
> shows up as a handle to the file and there is no way to retrieve/reset
> it its default association with the tty/pty. Since python is layered
> on top of this, I expect the same would be the case here as well.

Right. Congratulations for learning more about the design of the OS and
making a program that fits in well :-)

-- 
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Ben Finney

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Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> - 2013-10-23 12:25 -0500
  Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-24 07:40 +1100
  Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2013-10-24 07:46 +1100
  Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-24 07:52 +1100
  Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection random832@fastmail.us - 2013-10-23 17:01 -0400
  Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2013-10-24 09:20 +1100
    Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> - 2013-10-23 19:09 -0500
      Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2013-10-24 14:53 +1100
        Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> - 2013-10-23 23:36 -0500
        Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> - 2013-10-23 23:39 -0500
        Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2013-10-24 15:54 +1100
          Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> - 2013-10-24 06:58 -0500
          Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> - 2013-10-24 06:58 -0500
            Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2013-10-24 13:10 +0100
              Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> - 2013-10-24 08:41 -0500
                Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection feedthetroll@gmx.de - 2013-10-24 07:36 -0700
                Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> - 2013-10-24 09:43 -0500
              Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> - 2013-10-24 08:41 -0500
                Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2013-10-24 07:30 -0700
      Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-10-24 09:14 +0100
      Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2013-10-24 19:43 +1100
      Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2013-10-24 05:45 -0500
      Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benjamin@gmail.com> - 2013-10-24 12:33 +0100
      Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2013-10-24 07:39 -0700
    Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com> - 2013-10-23 19:09 -0500
  Re: Reading From stdin After Command Line Redirection Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2013-10-24 09:23 +1100

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