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Re: Bye bye butterflies

From amacmil304@aol.com
Newsgroups uk.environment.conservation
Subject Re: Bye bye butterflies
Date 2016-10-28 20:45 +0100
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It's not just me who thinks scientific research is garbage.  It's a
grant sucking industry that follows the money and almost always uses
slippery qualifiers which makes its conclusions meaningless.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/10/how-many-scientific-papers-just-arent-true/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20161029_Weekly_Highlights_44_NONSUBS

Get real, Malcolm, science sucks.

On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 11:57:10 +0100, Malcolm Ogilvie
<MAOgilvie@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>
>Total inability of Angus to produce the slightest evidence for his claims.
>
>When was the last time you did that, Angus, if ever?
>
>Malcolm
>
>
>On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 11:45:20 +0100, amacmil304@aol.com wrote:
>
>>Four slippery scientific qualifiers noted :-) 
>>
>>On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 07:35:00 +0100, Malcolm Ogilvie
>><MAOgilvie@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>A recent prediction suggests that the rise in CO2 levels experienced in the last 30 years
>>>might have led to between 5 and 10% extra growth, which I doubt you would be able to
>>>notice! A mild winter and fine spring with enough summer rain are the more likely reasons.
>>>
>>>And in any case, this is not "compensation" and nor is it "nature's" problem, it is
>>>mankind's.
>>>
>>>Malcolm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sun, 16 Oct 2016 18:34:55 +0100, amacmil304@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hardly seen a butterfly all summer this year, but massive increase in
>>>>plant growth possibly compensating for increased CO2.  Nature sorting
>>>>it's own problem?
>>>>
>>>>On Mon, 10 Oct 2016 09:37:50 +0100, Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"If you think you saw fewer butterflies than ever this British summer, 
>>>>>you are probably correct: the Big Butterfly Count has recorded its 
>>>>>lowest number of common species since records began.
>>>>>
>>>>>Normally ubiquitous butterflies such as the gatekeeper, comma and small 
>>>>>copper experienced their worst summers in the history of the count, 
>>>>>which is run by Butterfly Conservation and began in 2010.
>>>>>
>>>>>Scientists said the low number of butterflies is “a shock and a mystery” 
>>>>>because this summer was warmer than average and much drier in England 
>>>>>than the previous worst year for butterflies, 2012, which was unusually 
>>>>>cold and wet."
>>>>>
>>>>>https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/oct/10/record-low-number-of-uk-butterflies-a-shock-and-a-mystery
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't recall a year so bereft of butterflies: the only time I have 
>>>>>seen more than two at a time this year was a couple of weeks ago, when I 
>>>>>saw four large whites on the still-lush growth by one of the local rhynes.
>>>>>
>>>>>How was it for other observers?

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Bye bye butterflies Hils <hils@saynotospam.net> - 2016-10-10 09:37 +0100
  Re: Bye bye butterflies amacmil304@aol.com - 2016-10-16 18:34 +0100
    Re: Bye bye butterflies Malcolm Ogilvie <MAOgilvie@indaal.demon.co.uk> - 2016-10-17 07:35 +0100
      Re: Bye bye butterflies amacmil304@aol.com - 2016-10-19 11:45 +0100
        Re: Bye bye butterflies Malcolm Ogilvie <MAOgilvie@indaal.demon.co.uk> - 2016-10-19 11:57 +0100
          Re: Bye bye butterflies amacmil304@aol.com - 2016-10-28 20:45 +0100
            Re: Bye bye butterflies Malcolm Ogilvie <MAOgilvie@indaal.demon.co.uk> - 2016-10-29 08:05 +0100
          Re: Bye bye butterflies amacmil304@aol.com - 2016-11-10 21:41 +0000
            Re: Bye bye butterflies Malcolm Ogilvie <MAOgilvie@indaal.demon.co.uk> - 2016-11-11 13:50 +0000
              Re: Bye bye butterflies amacmil304@aol.com - 2016-11-14 09:05 +0000
                Re: Bye bye butterflies Malcolm Ogilvie <MAOgilvie@indaal.demon.co.uk> - 2016-11-14 16:14 +0000
                Re: Bye bye butterflies amacmil304@aol.com - 2016-11-14 17:51 +0000
                Re: Bye bye butterflies Malcolm Ogilvie <MAOgilvie@indaal.demon.co.uk> - 2016-11-15 07:16 +0000
                Re: Bye bye butterflies amacmil304@aol.com - 2016-11-19 18:29 +0000
                Re: Bye bye butterflies Malcolm Ogilvie <MAOgilvie@indaal.demon.co.uk> - 2016-11-20 11:54 +0000

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