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Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon
Date 2025-03-23 07:05 +0000
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 06:20:45 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:


> Somehow they managed to sell those transitions to their user and
> developer base as steps forward. Microsoft has failed to do the same.

I've never worked with Apple devices so I don't know how their development 
cycle is. Microsoft developers have had a few too many instances of 
bait'n'switch to be eager to jump on the latest bandwagon. Silverlight is 
one example. UWP is more recent.  Develop your app and it will run on 
Windows 10, 11, Windows Mobile (the ill-fated hone) XBox, Hololens, and 
everywhere! They tried to take a page from Apple and UWP apps would only 
be distributed through Windows Store. It was deprecated in 2021.

MAUI was the heir. If it sucks, call it something else and hope nobody 
notices. It has Xamarin DNA. It might help if they ate their own dogfood 
instead of using Electron for VS Code and other projects.

Meanwhile, they've been trying to drive a stake through Winforms heart for 
years with very little success. WPF is headed for the nursing home. 
Blazor? Maybe.

You never know when MS will go off chasing the latest squirrel.

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Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-22 21:55 +0000
  Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-22 22:50 +0000
  Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A �Frequently-Returned Item� On Amazon Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 19:03 -0400
  Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-22 21:09 -0400
    Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A �Frequently-Returned Item� On Amazon Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-22 22:00 -0400
    Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-23 06:20 +0000
      Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-23 07:05 +0000
      Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-23 07:13 -0400
        Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-23 09:52 -0400
          Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 00:38 +0000
            Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-24 06:16 +0000
              Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-24 03:30 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-24 16:58 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 13:19 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-24 13:35 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 14:22 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-24 18:41 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 14:50 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-24 19:08 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 15:32 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-25 15:25 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 12:39 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-25 16:36 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-24 18:51 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-25 00:20 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-24 20:58 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-25 06:52 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 03:10 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-25 05:44 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-25 03:18 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 02:52 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-09 17:00 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 08:53 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-25 15:35 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 02:45 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-26 15:38 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-27 19:50 +1100
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-27 15:52 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A ?Frequently-Returned Item? On Amazon Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-28 19:43 +1100
        Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-23 23:37 +0000
          Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 08:54 -0400
            Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-24 17:14 +0000
              Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 13:21 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-24 15:59 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-25 00:45 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 21:44 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-25 06:48 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 08:52 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-03-25 13:02 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-25 09:16 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-25 17:30 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 02:41 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 02:37 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-26 08:33 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-03-26 12:45 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 17:13 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-03-26 17:21 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A �Frequently-Returned Item� On Amazon chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-03-27 07:25 -0500
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 20:31 +0000
            Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 20:38 +0000
              Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 19:27 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 23:36 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-24 21:34 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-25 07:05 +0000
              Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 12:04 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-26 19:43 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A �Frequently-Returned Item� On Amazon Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 15:46 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 20:18 +0000
      Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 00:29 +0000
  Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-22 21:09 -0400
  Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-22 22:08 -0400
    Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-23 07:08 -0400
      Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A �Frequently-Returned Item� On Amazon Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-23 07:17 -0400
        Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-23 15:10 -0400
          Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 00:36 +0000
            Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-24 06:21 +0000
              Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-24 11:15 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-24 17:48 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-24 16:59 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-25 01:19 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-25 02:15 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 08:33 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 03:13 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-26 20:31 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-27 19:57 +1100
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 03:07 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-03-25 08:26 +0000
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-25 06:14 -0400
                Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-26 03:46 +0000
      Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-23 23:38 +0000
  Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-03 20:32 +0000
    Re: Windows-on-ARM Laptop Is A “Frequently-Returned Item” On Amazon rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-04 01:47 +0000

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