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Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)"

From Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)"
Date 2015-09-17 11:52 -0700
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supercat@casperkitty.com writes:
> On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 11:17:29 AM UTC-5, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> If I write a floating-point multiplication, the compiler can generate
>> either inline machine code to perform the operation, or a function call.
>> 
>> If I write a call to memcpy(), the compiler can generate either inline
>> machine code to perform the operation, or a function call.
>
> If a C program requests either operation, and a compiler generates a
> function call, then a function to perform the appropriate operation
> must exist somewhere.  Given that the behaviors of both operations are
> defined by the C Standard, is there any reason that one of those
> external functions should be expected to be bundled with the compiler
> and the other one not?

Yes, there could be any number of reasons, but they're going to vary
from one OS to another and from one implementation to another.

A C implementation is made up of components that have to work correctly
together.  The standard has nothing to say about how those components
are coordinated or distributed, only that the final product has to work
in certain ways.  The way it's done on each system depends on what
happens to be most convenient for that system, or on the whim of the
implementers.

Is there any reason that the C standard should specify more about this
than it already does?  What exactly is the problem that you're seeing?

> Further, while I see no logical reason why one platform shouldn't be able to
> run both C99 and C11 programs, I see no clean way of handling something like:
>     
>     sscanf("11", "%hhd", &variable);
>
> whose behavior is defined differently in C99 and C11.  If the compiler itself
> is responsible for supplying the sscanf function, it can ensure that the code
> will behave according to the appropriate language specification, but unless
> the platform includes both a "__sscanf_c99" and a "__sscanf_c11" function or
> has some other means of knowing what standard to apply, I don't see how a
> "scanf" built into the platform can work in both cases.

I see no difference in the way the behavior is defined in C99 vs. C11.

C99:
    hh  Specifies that a following d, i, o, u, x, X, or n conversion
        specifier applies to an argument with type pointer to signed
        char or unsigned char.

C11:
    hh  Specifies that a following d, i, o, u, x, X, or n conversion
        specifier applies to an argument with type pointer to signed
        char or unsigned char.

The wording for the "d" conversion specifier is also identical.

Are you thinking of C90?  C90 didn't have "hh", so the behavior of the
sscanf call was undefined -- so behaving in the C99/C11 manner would be
conforming.  The committee is usually careful not to change the defined
behavior of existing code.

I remember you wrote something about "%hhd" recently, but I don't
remember what it was.  Can you clarify?

But if the behavior of sscanf("11", "%hhd", &variable) did change from
C99 to C11, then yes, an implementation that supports both standard
would have to do something to ensure that it behaves correctly in both
cases.  It could use two different sscanf functions, or it could pass an
implicit extra argument, or it could set a global variable that sscanf
pays attention to (the latter would probably be the simplest approach).

Bundling the sscanf implementation with the compiler rather than with
the library doesn't change these considerations in any way that I can
see.  Both behaviors would still have to be supported regardless of who
implements them.

(Of course as far as ISO is concerned, the C11 standard superseded and
replaced the C99 standard, so conformance to C99 is strictly irrelevant.
But in real life people do want implementations that conform to older
standards -- and in practice that's generally what we have.)

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-12 15:28 +0200
  Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-12 16:00 +0100
    Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-13 23:07 +0200
      Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-13 16:56 -0700
        Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-09-14 01:08 +0100
        Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-14 10:31 +0200
          Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-14 03:56 -0700
            Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-14 14:31 +0200
              Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-14 05:49 -0700
      Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-14 01:55 +0100
        Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-14 13:23 +1200
          Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-14 11:35 +0100
            Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-14 14:04 +0200
              Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-15 10:22 +1200
            Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Michael Forsythe <forsythe@example.com> - 2015-09-14 13:07 +0000
              Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-09-14 13:23 +0000
                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-14 06:32 -0700
                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-14 16:44 +0100
                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-14 18:25 +0200
                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-14 21:48 +0100
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                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-15 15:53 +0100
                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-15 18:22 +0100
                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2015-09-15 22:13 +0000
                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-16 00:55 +0100
                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-16 03:51 +0200
                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-16 10:34 +0100
                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-16 12:43 +0200
                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-16 13:12 +0100
                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-16 14:46 +0200
                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-16 17:26 +0100
                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2015-09-16 17:35 +0000
                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 10:48 -0700
                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-09-16 19:53 +0100
                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 12:28 -0700
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                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 13:11 -0700
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                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-16 13:53 -0700
                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-16 23:07 +0200
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                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-16 22:59 +0200
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                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-17 09:17 -0700
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                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-17 11:52 -0700
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                Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-09-18 11:14 -0700
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              Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2015-09-14 09:32 +0000
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        Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-14 04:42 +0200
        Re: "Know Your Language: C Rules Everything Around Me (Part One)" David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-09-14 10:43 +0200

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