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Re: Prefix and postfix

From Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Prefix and postfix
Date 2015-12-11 08:51 -0800
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BartC <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
> On 11/12/2015 12:38, Richard Heathfield wrote:
[...]
>> Standard input is line-oriented. A line is terminated by a newline
>> character.
>
> My experiments show that that isn't always the case. If you've already 
> typed AB, then ^Z will abort the program (Unix), ^D will complete the 
> line, without the newline (Unix), ^C will also abort (Unix), ^D will 
> appear as character 4 (Windows), ^C will lose the abort the line and 
> return EOF (Windows).

On Unix, Ctrl-Z doesn't abort the program.  It suspends it.  (This
behavior can be reconfigured or disabled.)  You can list suspended jobs
using the "jobs" command, or resume a suspended job's execution using
the "fg" command.

Ctrl-D (also reconfigurable) is the "eof" character.  Typing Ctrl-D at
the beginning of input, or immediately after a newline, or immediately
after another Ctrl-D, causes getchar() to return EOF.  Typing Ctrl-D in
another context causes the partial line to be delivered to the program,
bypassing the default line buffering.  Typing Ctrl-D twice in the middle
of a line causes getchar() to return EOF with a partial line (the
program won't see a '\n' character).  (Ctrl-D, IIRC, has no special
meaning on Windows, so there's no point in testing it there.)

Ctrl-C aborts the program by sending the SIGINT signal.  Ctrl-\ also
aborts the program, by sending the SIGQUIT signal.  In either case,
getchar() doesn't return.  (Both characters can be reconfigured or
disabled, and/or a program can reconfigure the way it handles signals.)

Windows uses Ctrl-Z to trigger an end-of-file condition, similar to the
way Unix uses Ctrl-D.  I don't know the details of how Windows handles
Ctrl-Z at the beginning, end, or middle of an input line; I wouldn't be
surprised if it differs from the way Unix handles Ctrl-D.  I suppose
it's a bit confusing that Ctrl-Z is used by both Unix and Windows, but
with different meanings, but anyone with experience on both systems
should be able to cope with it.

>> After I'd typed the newline character, I was at the end of a
>> line, not the start of one.
>
> No. See the above. You are physically at the start of the next line. 
> Logically you can be at the end of one, *and* at the start of the next. 
> So 'Start of the line' wins.

Whatever.  I don't have much problem saying you're at the start of
a line -- but Richard makes a valid point, that if you type Ctrl-D
immediately after a newline, there is no line for you to be at the
start of.

>> You seem to be suggesting that I should tell my program that input is
>> complete, when it cannot possibly be complete because I'm only partway
>> through a line. I'm sorry, but that's just plain daft.
>
> In a line-oriented file, the last line need not end with a newline. You 
> were saying about files and keyboard input being exactly the same ... ?
>
>>> Sound's good, yes?
>>
>> Other than the fact that it's badly conceived, badly written, and
>> factually incorrect, I don't see any other major problems with it.
>
> Which facts aren't correct? That I referred to the start of the line 
> rather than the end?
>
> The above would be for an app where lots of data is typed in then it 
> does something else (like entering a bunch of words then displaying a 
> histogram). On something like interactive Python on Ubuntu and Windows:
>
> ABC^DDEF        The ^D is ignored
> ^D              Quits
> ABC^Z           Unix: Quits; Windows: same as backspace!
> ^Z              Quits
> ABC^C           Aborts the line with 'KeyboardInterrupt'
> ^C              'Keyboardinterrupt'

Interactive Python on Unix probably reconfigures its tty settings and/or
signal handling.  Again, Ctrl-Z on Unix doesn't quit; it suspends the
job, and you can see it by typing the "jobs" command at a shell prompt.

> So a slightly different set of behaviours again. But notice that ^Z can 
> be used to quit /in the middle of a line/ (or rather, at the end as you 
> can't type anything following!).

Yes.

> It's hard to tell whether Python sees those Quit events, so that it can 
> do some finalising, or whether the OS just pulls the plug. This is the 
> sort of info I would need.

When you type Ctrl-Z on Unix, nothing is delivered to stdin.  The tty
driver causes a signal to be delivered to the running process, and that
signal causes the process to be suspended.

The Python process prints "KeyboardInterrupt" and continues running, so
it must be handling the SIGINT signal that was generated when you typed
Ctrl-C.  As for Ctrl-Z, the Python process isn't handling it; the
process is forcibly suspended by the OS, via delivery of a SIGTSTP
signal.  (I don't think a process can handle SIGTSTP, but it can change
the tty settings so Ctrl-Z doesn't cause a SIGTSTP signal to be
delivered).

[...]

>> You don't like text streams, obviously. That's your problem, though,
>> isn't it?
>
> Text streams are fine. But they're not a file. They don't need to have a 
> concept of an EOF just because you're trying to make them like files. 

Unix allows a text stream to be attached to a file, to a pipe, or to a
keyboard.  This isn't the only way I/O could have been organized, but it
has a lot of advantages.

For example, say I have a program that's designed to filter stdin to
stdout.  I can run that program from the command line, type some input
to it, and then type Ctrl-D.  The program doesn't know or care where its
input is coming from.

Programs that are intended only for interactive use (like text editors)
can reconfigure their signal handling and tty settings.

> There's all this stuff with Ctrl Z, Ctrl D and Ctrl C which really have 
> little to do with emulating EOF, which they do badly, and more to do 
> with process control.

Ctrl-Z and Ctrl-C are for process control, and have nothing to do with
emulating EOF.  Ctrl-D triggers and end-of-file condition, and has
nothing to do with process control.  If you don't understand that, Unix
behavior is going to be confusing.

[...]

> I find keeping these separate makes things a lot simpler than trying to 
> unify them.

Decades of experience with Unix experience say otherwise.

[...]

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-04 16:06 -0800
  Re: Prefix and postfix Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-05 13:15 +1300
    Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-04 16:19 -0800
    Re: Prefix and postfix Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-12-05 01:18 +0000
      Re: Prefix and postfix James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-12-04 20:33 -0500
  Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-05 07:55 -0800
    Re: Prefix and postfix supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-12-05 09:09 -0800
      Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-05 11:40 -0800
      Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-06 23:33 +0100
        Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-06 23:10 +0000
          Re: Prefix and postfix supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-12-06 15:34 -0800
          Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-07 10:14 +0100
        Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-06 16:11 -0800
          Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-07 00:27 +0000
          Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-07 01:15 +0000
        Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-07 00:13 +0000
          Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-07 01:26 +0000
            Re: Prefix and postfix Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-07 14:51 +1300
              Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-07 02:25 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-07 15:55 +1300
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-07 11:13 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-07 11:32 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-07 12:55 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-07 12:14 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-07 12:29 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-07 13:49 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-07 13:47 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-12-07 14:11 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Waldek Hebisch <hebisch@antispam.uni.wroc.pl> - 2015-12-13 00:39 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-13 01:17 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-12 18:21 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-13 08:31 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com> - 2015-12-13 15:12 +0530
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-13 03:40 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-13 11:41 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-12-07 12:55 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-07 11:46 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-12-08 01:07 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-12-07 09:11 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-07 15:26 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-12-07 08:25 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-12-07 13:59 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-12-07 09:06 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-07 14:12 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-07 08:36 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-12-07 21:01 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-07 15:16 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2015-12-08 13:58 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-12-07 12:11 -0500
              Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-07 11:06 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-07 13:02 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-07 14:37 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-07 15:17 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-07 21:39 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-07 23:04 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-08 01:19 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-12-08 01:12 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-08 09:11 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-07 17:19 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-07 22:50 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-08 01:26 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-08 01:27 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 17:22 +0530
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-09 13:15 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-09 13:07 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-08 07:54 +1300
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-07 23:41 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-12-07 17:50 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-12-07 19:43 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-07 23:14 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Thompson <dave.thompson2@verizon.net> - 2015-12-22 06:45 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-12-07 12:00 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-07 09:04 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-07 19:59 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-07 12:14 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-07 12:45 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-07 19:56 +0000
            Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-07 01:58 +0000
              Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-07 11:48 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-07 19:09 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-07 19:41 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-07 23:26 +0000
          Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-07 11:38 +0100
            Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-07 02:52 -0800
              Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-07 13:04 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-07 05:10 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-07 13:57 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-07 08:20 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-07 08:42 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-07 17:19 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-07 09:27 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-07 17:41 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-07 09:46 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-07 09:50 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-07 18:09 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-07 10:17 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-12-07 10:21 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-07 15:33 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-07 08:50 -0800
              Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-12-07 13:43 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-07 10:54 -0800
            Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-07 11:00 +0000
              Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-07 13:07 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-07 04:19 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-07 13:58 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-07 12:32 +0000
            Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-07 20:57 +0000
              Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-08 00:10 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-12-07 15:40 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-08 12:55 +1300
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-08 00:43 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-08 01:28 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-08 01:53 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-12-08 16:44 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-08 17:47 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-08 10:46 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-08 19:27 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-08 12:30 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-12-08 12:37 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-08 21:47 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-08 23:20 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-09 01:15 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-09 02:07 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-09 13:24 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-09 14:54 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-09 15:20 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-09 07:59 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-09 21:43 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-12-09 08:45 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Thompson <dave.thompson2@verizon.net> - 2015-12-22 06:45 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-08 19:20 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-12-10 21:01 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-12-10 16:31 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-12-10 14:03 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-11 02:16 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-11 10:20 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-11 02:24 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-11 10:39 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-11 03:20 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-11 12:02 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2015-12-11 13:06 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-10 21:46 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-11 10:57 +1300
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-10 22:09 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-11 11:22 +1300
                Re: Prefix and postfix Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-12-10 17:27 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-10 23:07 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-11 00:11 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-11 00:25 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-11 01:42 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-11 02:36 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-11 02:55 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Udyant Wig <udyantw@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 20:04 +0530
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-11 02:22 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-11 10:33 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2015-12-11 13:28 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-11 12:30 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-11 11:23 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-11 12:38 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-11 14:21 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-11 14:55 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-11 15:19 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-11 15:28 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-12-11 08:46 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-12-11 12:18 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-11 12:27 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-11 17:30 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-11 08:51 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-12-17 10:55 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-17 11:24 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-11 18:04 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-12 08:58 +1300
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-11 22:08 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-12 11:32 +1300
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-11 22:48 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-12 11:57 +1300
                Re: Prefix and postfix supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-12-11 15:33 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-11 23:43 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-11 20:37 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-11 23:23 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-12 00:01 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-12 02:15 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-12 11:15 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-13 00:52 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-13 02:05 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-12 18:35 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-13 13:35 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-12-13 11:48 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-12-13 20:36 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-13 13:14 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2015-12-13 21:38 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-13 22:35 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-13 14:48 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-13 23:05 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-12-13 18:08 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-13 15:44 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-14 00:42 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-13 19:48 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 06:58 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-14 00:04 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-14 12:12 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-14 08:07 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-14 17:23 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-14 10:58 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-14 12:29 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-14 14:52 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-14 19:37 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-14 20:33 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-15 09:45 +1300
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-14 13:16 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-14 21:34 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-14 21:45 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-14 22:00 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-14 22:23 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-14 14:41 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-14 23:38 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-15 00:50 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-14 17:00 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-15 01:20 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-15 11:41 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-15 04:03 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-15 12:47 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-15 05:42 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-15 14:11 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-15 06:24 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-12-15 17:13 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-15 08:57 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-15 11:05 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-16 03:52 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-16 05:38 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 22:30 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-16 11:17 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 05:38 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-16 15:02 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 06:10 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-16 14:47 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 07:09 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-16 08:11 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 09:04 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 09:21 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-16 15:19 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-16 07:33 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-16 15:34 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-16 15:54 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-16 21:11 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-16 22:36 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-16 15:33 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix ais523 <ais523@nethack4.org> - 2015-12-24 09:02 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-12-25 09:12 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix ais523 <ais523@nethack4.org> - 2015-12-28 07:15 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2015-12-27 18:40 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-17 00:39 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-17 02:22 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-12-16 11:00 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-16 16:06 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-16 08:52 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-16 21:24 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-16 16:04 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-17 00:55 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 19:45 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-17 01:54 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-12-16 22:43 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-17 04:34 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-12-17 08:46 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-16 23:45 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-12-17 16:14 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-12-17 14:12 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-17 22:42 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-12-17 18:21 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-12-17 18:43 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-18 00:21 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-17 17:01 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-12-16 22:38 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-12-17 06:25 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-12-17 17:10 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-12-17 15:04 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-12-17 17:24 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-16 12:26 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-16 14:46 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-16 07:14 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 07:28 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-16 15:28 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-16 07:40 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-16 16:58 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-16 09:02 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-17 13:58 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-17 09:38 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-12-17 12:31 -0600
                Re: Prefix and postfix raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-12-17 21:07 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-18 11:35 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-18 11:12 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-19 15:08 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-19 19:36 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-19 21:08 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-20 00:48 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-20 09:51 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-19 12:09 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-19 23:13 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-19 14:50 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-12-19 17:18 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-19 14:56 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-12-19 18:04 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Thompson <dave.thompson2@verizon.net> - 2015-12-28 05:12 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-19 21:42 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-20 09:42 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-20 08:54 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-21 17:04 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-21 18:34 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-22 15:47 +1300
                Re: Prefix and postfix Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2015-12-22 07:09 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-22 21:56 +1300
                Re: Prefix and postfix Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-12-22 12:12 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2015-12-22 06:49 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-12-22 14:44 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Thompson <dave.thompson2@verizon.net> - 2015-12-28 05:13 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-20 21:45 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-20 19:04 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-21 10:51 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-21 12:22 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-20 21:49 +1300
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-20 06:36 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-20 18:42 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-20 15:28 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-20 09:17 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-21 08:10 +1300
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-21 08:06 +1300
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-20 19:58 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix "D. Lowe" <d.lowe@openmailbox.org> - 2015-12-20 21:16 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix "D. Lowe" <d.lowe@openmailbox.org> - 2015-12-20 21:22 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-12-20 16:39 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix "D. Lowe" <d.lowe@openmailbox.org> - 2015-12-20 21:57 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-18 11:18 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-18 11:50 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-18 04:04 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-18 22:56 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-18 20:28 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-19 22:13 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-12-18 09:31 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-18 08:44 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-19 12:44 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-19 11:59 +1300
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-19 15:18 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-20 11:32 +1300
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-20 09:58 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-16 17:05 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-16 21:27 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-17 02:39 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-16 08:20 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-16 15:52 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-16 18:51 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-16 08:19 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-12-17 00:16 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-15 11:07 +1300
                Re: Prefix and postfix Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-12-14 19:53 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-15 01:14 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2015-12-14 20:42 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-12-14 20:50 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-15 02:00 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-12-14 21:27 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-15 10:45 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 03:20 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-12-15 08:25 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-15 14:38 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-12-15 11:12 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-15 08:53 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-15 18:10 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-15 11:50 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-15 20:13 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-15 13:21 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-15 22:13 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-15 16:40 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-16 01:48 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-15 23:56 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-12-16 11:38 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-16 14:11 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-12-15 17:23 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-12-16 02:51 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-14 08:18 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-12-14 09:10 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-14 09:22 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-12-14 12:28 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-12-14 09:41 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-14 11:13 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 12:42 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-12-14 09:05 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-12-13 12:24 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-12-13 13:17 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-12-11 19:56 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-12-11 20:09 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-12-11 12:44 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-12-11 21:52 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-12-13 20:25 +0000
                Re: Prefix and postfix Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2015-12-11 12:58 -0500
                Re: Prefix and postfix supercat@casperkitty.com - 2015-12-08 11:54 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-12-09 11:59 -0800
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-08 09:41 +0100
                Re: Prefix and postfix David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-12-08 09:45 +0100
        Re: Prefix and postfix Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-12-07 00:31 +0000
  Re: Prefix and postfix John Bode <jfbode1029@gmail.com> - 2015-12-10 08:56 -0800
    Re: Prefix and postfix "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2015-12-10 10:00 -0800

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