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Re: Gun ownership figures revealed 25 years on from Port Arthur massacre

From Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au>
Newsgroups aus.politics, talk.politics.guns, alt.toys.bombs.napalm
Subject Re: Gun ownership figures revealed 25 years on from Port Arthur massacre
Date 2023-03-28 08:17 +1100
Message-ID <k8efg0FfksU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 28/03/2023 2:04 am, Scout wrote:
> 
> 
> "Fran" <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabeFran.com> 
> wrote in message news:tvo80g$2gqhi$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 25/03/2023 6:59 pm, Gary wrote:
>>> On 24 Mar 2023, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> posted some
>>> news:op.12clo9t7byq249@pvr2.lan:
>>>
>>>> Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
>>>> max headroom <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
>>>> spewed just the mindless shit thats always pouring
>>>>   from its stinking arse.
>>>
>>> The rate of nonfirearm suicide rose from 7.66 in 1979 to 11.1 in 1996,
>>> while rates of nonfirearm homicide generally remained constant (1.39 in
>>> 1979 to 1.19 in 1996). After 1996, rates of firearm suicide, firearm
>>> homicide, and nonfirearm homicide all decreased (in 2013, rates were 
>>> 0.72,
>>> 0.15, and 0.80, respectively). However, the trend for nonfirearm suicide
>>> was more sporadic, increasing to 12.8 in 1998, dropping to 9.54 in 2006,
>>> and again trending upward to 10.62 in 1993.
>>>
>>> So nothing really changed except the way people kill others or 
>>> themselves.
>>>
>>> In fact, the number of deaths increased after the Australian fascists
>>> attacked gun owners.
>>>
>>> <https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/analysis/essays/1996-national-
>>> firearms-agreement.html>
>>
>> You've missed the point.  But then so has the Rand Corporation people 
>> who did the report.  They put forward a straw man to justify wasting 
>> time and money on that study you cite.
>>
>> The gun buy back (NFA) in Australia happened after a mass murder event 
>> when a nutter used semi-auto weapons to go on a shooting spree.  The 
>> buy back had overwhelming public support and it achieved what  it was 
>> supposed to do which was to stop another mass murder event in Australia.
> 
> And yet.. 14 months later there was another mass murder.
> 
> in fact it would appear as if the rate of mass murder events hasn't 
> significantly changed in Australia.

**Since the 1996 gun laws were implemented, there has been TWO mass 
murder events using guns. By any measure, the 1996 gun laws can be 
regarded as highly effective at reducing gun mass murders.

> 
> Indeed the GOVERNMENT has been the biggest perpetrator of mass murder in 
> Australian history.. and they still have their guns.

**Not ONE SINGLE member of the Australian Federal government has ever 
committed mass murder, you lying shit for brains.


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                Re: Gun ownership figures revealed 25 years on from Port Arthur massacre Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-29 08:19 +1100
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                Re: Gun ownership figures revealed 25 years on from Port Arthur massacre Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> - 2023-03-28 11:20 +1100
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