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Re: "PID loop for sour owl shit" ?!

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: "PID loop for sour owl shit" ?!
Date 2022-11-06 18:48 +0000
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On Sat, 5 Nov 2022 20:27:42 -0700 (PDT), -hh wrote:

>  Nobody wants to look at a long term investment. It's a bitch selling a
>> ROI on capital improvements when the money can be parked in a bank at
>> 12% or more.
> 
> Sure, but considering that the theory of high Fed rates is to slow down
> the economy, then only the most compelling ROI investments merit
> funding.

I see that era as a watershed moment. In the US much of the capital 
equipment had been acquired during WWII. It was at the end of life and new 
technologies like CNC and robotics were coming available.  

https://www.automate.org/a3-content/joseph-engelberger-unimate

The Unimate was just the start. We were setting up an automated system for 
molding watt-hour meter bases at a GE plant, and I would go to watch the 
Unimates in the diecast area. That was the future.

Then the oil embargo and subsequent disruption came. Suddenly capital 
investment in the future was dropped in favor of cutting operational 
costs, the payroll being the prime target. The migration started, first to 
the southern US states, then Mexico, and ultimately Asia. The US machine 
tool business dried up and blew away. 

The grand new scheme of a service economy was introduced. We could do away 
with the grimy process of making stuff in smokestack plants and make a 
living taking in each others laundry. 

So here we are now...  

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RecessionOnDemand. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-11-03 19:31 -0700
  Re: RecessionOnDemand. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2022-11-04 04:59 +0000
    "PID loop for sour owl shit" ?! "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-11-03 23:12 -0700
      Re: "PID loop for sour owl shit" ?! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2022-11-04 16:10 +0000
        Democrats demand more bodyguards for them, less for the slums. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-11-04 16:19 -0700
          Re: Democrats demand more bodyguards for them, less for the slums. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2022-11-06 11:59 +0000
            Mitt Romney is a deep blue Democrat. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-11-06 04:46 -0800
              Re: Mitt Romney is a deep blue Democrat. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2022-11-07 11:56 +0000
        Re: "PID loop for sour owl shit" ?! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2022-11-05 12:01 -0500
          Re: "PID loop for sour owl shit" ?! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2022-11-05 19:02 +0000
            Re: "PID loop for sour owl shit" ?! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2022-11-05 15:02 -0500
              Re: "PID loop for sour owl shit" ?! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2022-11-05 18:03 -0700
                Re: "PID loop for sour owl shit" ?! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2022-11-06 03:05 +0000
                Re: "PID loop for sour owl shit" ?! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2022-11-05 21:07 -0700
              Re: "PID loop for sour owl shit" ?! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2022-11-06 01:09 +0000
                Re: "PID loop for sour owl shit" ?! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2022-11-05 18:26 -0700
                Re: "PID loop for sour owl shit" ?! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2022-11-06 02:52 +0000
                Re: "PID loop for sour owl shit" ?! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2022-11-05 20:27 -0700
                Re: "PID loop for sour owl shit" ?! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2022-11-06 18:48 +0000
                Re: "PID loop for sour owl shit" ?! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2022-11-06 14:10 -0600
                For ~70 years now, we've been losing proxy wars against China & Russia. "Relf"  <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> - 2022-11-06 20:12 -0800
                Re: "PID loop for sour owl shit" ?! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2022-11-07 00:39 -0800

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