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Il Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:22:43 -0800, Kurt Nowak ha scritto:

> Hi Lothar,
>
May be you refer to me, Vincenzo aka supervinx  ;)
> Be careful here. The DN3000 is a SAU8 machine where the DN3500 is a
> SAU7. This might cause you much unwanted headache. I have a couple of
> DN3000, so I will have a closer look at the differences. It could be
> that they take different memory modules too. I will have a look at my
> "installing Apollo memory booklet". I read your other thread and I
> noticed a similar flashing pattern that you described on the display
> when I had the wrong memory in a machine. Try taking the memory out and
> turning it on - does it make the same pattern as when the memory is
> installed? If so, it could be a memory issue and not a frame buffer
> issue? I also noticed that the DN3000s that I have have a different
> frame buffer...they have what looks like a DB9 connector instead of the
> 13W3(ish) looking connector that my DN3500/4500s have. I have several of
> the DB9 types. I would be happy to send you one once we absolutely
> determine that the one you have will not work. 

Memory modules are 2MB in size and of the "approved type". In fact, if I 
connect through serial, the DN3000 works. I have been told that 8planes 
FB don't work on a DN3000 with such an old eprom like mine. I'm about to 
upgrade the eprom...

> Next, regarding your
> network adapter. Did you say you have an ATR adapter or and 802.3
> Ethernet adapter. If you have the ethernet adapter, make sure you have
> the correct jumper setting selected, which switches between Twisted Pair
> (DIX transceiver) and BNC (coax). I do have lots of ATR cables, but
> alas, I only have one ATR hub which I want to keep. The cables are
> pretty useless without the hub. Also are you sure you have your CONFIG
> set up correctly? 
The 802.3 card is missing the bootrom. Settings are correct. Since I'm 
waiting the new eprom programmer I'll make two new eproms (MD and ethernet 
boot) and check it out again...

Without hub, but with cables, I can connect two Apollos in ATR mode...
I own two working DN3500 and ethernet connection works great.
I'm curious to try the ATR...

> Lastly
> regarding a tape drive, I do have several tape drives, but I suggest you
> have a new pinch roller made. These old Archive tape drives are
> notorious for having the drive rubber "goo" up with age....This guy:
> http://www.terrysrubberrollers.com will make you a brand new one for
> $35. I had one made for my Sun QIC-150 drive back in 2007 and I was very
> happy with his work. Apparently the old rubber disintegrates with time,
> so there is no telling when a used roller will go bad. I'll send you the
> exact dimensions of the rubber if your interested. Also regarding tape
> drives, is yours a SCSI or does it connect to an Archive board? I read
> somewhere that you cannot have a scsi controller and an Archive board in
> the same machine. If you have the WD7000 controller then you MUST have
> the SCSI QIC-36 drive. Send me some photos of your DN3000 so I can see
> what you have running inside...
One DN3500 has a WD7000 and SCSI tape (working). Another SCSI tape got 
its capstan broken while working. Not turned into goo, but it reduced 
dramatically its size, being unusable.
The other DN3500 has a OMTi controller and a floppy, because the two 
QIC-36 Archive tape have become gooeish :(
I tried to connect the HD (OMTi formatted and working ) to the WD7000, 
but it's not recognized (read error), so I'm stuck with the Archive board.
No spare ESDI disks :(

Then I've a bunch of 400t, 425t, but it's another story ...
 
> -Kurt (yes, thats my real name)
> email: kurt.m.nowak@apple.gmail.com (remove the fruit)
> 
> On Feb 21, 11:10 am, Lothar Paltins <lptm...@arcor.de> wrote:
>> Kurt,
>>
>> > Well, seeing that you are in Germany and I am in the States, I think
>> > sending you a complete DN3500 wouldn't be very economical. But if
>> > there are any cards or a power supply I could send you that. I have
>> > about 12 working DN3500s and about 7 seemingly bad ones... Still
>> > sorting out what I have. What would you need to get your DN3000
>> > working again?
>>
>> well, in fact I'm trying to make another DN3500 out of the DN3000, just
>> for fun. I've got a DN3500 motherboard without processor and FPU, but
>> I've inserted a 50MHz 68030 and 68882 and this seems to work, only the
>> CPU self test fails. I guess, because it expects the ID of a 25MHz CPU.
> 
> 
>> Sending a whole system to Germany would indeed be much too expensive,
>> that's not worth it. What I could use to upgrade my DN3500 are a 3C505
>> ethernet card, an 8 bit video card, a WD7000 controller, ESDI disks and
>> some 8MB RAM cards. But sending a 5 1/4" disk would probably also be
>> much too expensive.
>>
>> supervinx,
>>
>> you didn't tell us your real name, so I have to use your pseudonym. I
>> could send you a dual pc board ATR sandwich for the DN3000, if the
>> shipment cost from Germany to Italy is acceptable for you. I've got 3
>> of them, but I would have to test them first. Don't know, whether they
>> are still working.
>>
>> Lothar
>> --
>> Lothar Paltins                                        lptm...@arcor.de





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