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On 11/10/2021 12:15 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Tuesday, 9 November 2021 at 09:57:55 UTC+11, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 9 November 2021 at 05:52:14 UTC+11, Clutterfreak wrote:
>>> On 11/3/2021 10:35 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
>>>> On 10/27/2021 10:35 AM, Clutterfreak wrote:
>>>>> Coexistence is of course best achieved by trade in which both sides
>>>>> _fairly_ benefit. That's the approach that MH takes and that's the
>>>>> approach that you see in history all modern human took.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Mongol onslaught on MH, a case of MH war on MH, was an exception in
>>>> which both sides were taking the correct approach! I will discuss it
>>>> later in detail.
>>>>
>>> Ok let me explain that important matter now quickly.
>>>
>>> Very fast, Mongols didn't aim to ravage every sign of civilization and
>>> life anywhere that they happened to move to. They were totally pragmatic
>>> people and didn't have time for anger or greed or whim, etc. Indeed they
>>> offered some of the best examples of MH inside and out, and what they
>>> did was not the result of stupidity or malice, but absolute necessity.
>>> That's why it happened!
>>>
>>> The gist of the matter was that they had, for the first time in history,
>>> created a too large of a "city" that still relied totally on their mode
>>> of life :-) It was the first (and last) in history. They were almost
>>> 100% people who lived on livestock. There's a limit for the size of such
>>> things because these livestock must eat. When such "cities" grew in size
>>> to a point that there were no grass and grain in the area to feed them,
>>> the entire "city" had to begin to move!
>>>
>>> These "moving cities" were as large or often larger than usual
>>> stationary and still cities we're all familiar with, and Mongols lived
>>> inside it, married inside it, gave birth in it, everything, while
>>> constantly moving. They couldn't even stay 24 hours in one place cause
>>> some of their livestock would starve to death, so they moved perpetually
>>> throughout hours and days and years. They lived while constantly moving
>>> toward areas with grass, and soon after all grass was eaten and gone,
>>> the city was also gone elsewhere. These "moving cities" never stopped.
>>>
>>> The result of this new mode of life, living inside "moving cities", was
>>> that in the event of a serious war they could not just win the war and
>>> keep going because enemy would form again behind them very quickly and
>>> easily.
>>>
>>> In conventional wars you defeat your enemy then you establish local
>>> forces to keep your defeated enemy in check while the rest of your
>>> forces move forward. Mongols couldn't do that because they didn't have
>>> anything that could stop and be left behind. Everything had to move
>>> forward with the rest of the "city".
>>>
>>> Therefore after enemy was defeated, they had to also annihilate the
>>> entire infrastructure, people, any form and manner of equipment and life
>>> that could be used later to create a resistance to them in their wake.
>>> It was a necessity, not acts of savagery.
>>>
>>> And there were not just one "moving city". There were numerous moving
>>> cities all carefully distanced from each other so by the time the one
>>> behind would reach areas once passed by an earlier wave, grass again had
>>> grown. Even the shape of these cities were calculated accordingly. They
>>> were boomerang shaped and the angle would change depending on territory
>>> the city moved through. The front edge to rear edge length of this
>>> boomerang had its limits cause if too wide the livestock in the rear
>>> would have nothing to eat. It was some brilliant design Chengiz himself
>>> had come up with, making such formations at that size and magnitude
>>> possible for the first time in history. And it was something to see!
>>>
>>> The tale of the sight of Mongols moving cities is still on Iranians
>>> tongues. The wonder, the intricacies, even the smell!... Iranians could
>>> smell the approaching Mongol cities days in advance. They'd know their
>>> fates will shortly be met and had ample time to make the most important
>>> decisions of their lives. Many sided with those who wanted to fight to
>>> death. The rest were simply slaughtered clean off the face of the area
>>> where there was a lively city standing before Mongols' arrival.
>>>
>>> Now from settled people's point of view, these huge moving cities would
>>> arrive and devour every form of grass, grain, and food that their
>>> livestock could eat without asking for permission. Livestock doesn't ask
>>> for permission. In fact Mongols all the time on approaching a city would
>>> send messengers in advance to warn the rulers of the city what was
>>> coming and if they would just stay put until food was finished the
>>> moving city would keep going away from them without any slaughter. These
>>> messengers also would tell the settlers that their best horses and
>>> equipment that could be made to move would also be taken, their entire
>>> livestock would be taken, and that some of their most beautiful women
>>> may also be taken. Also all their craftsmen and skilled workers would be
>>> taken along with them when city would continue moving past what was left
>>> of their city.
>>>
>>> These offers weren't that acceptable, were they. Therefore almost in
>>> every encounter with a city war would be waged on Mongols on the
>>> decision and resolve of the settlers. Settlers had to choose between
>>> absolute ground zero in their lives, left with no food, no horses, no
>>> livestock; or, they would defend themselves to death. In many many
>>> cities that Mongols arrived at, the latter proved to be the case, and
>>> war would break out, and Mongols would win then absolutely everything
>>> that was left of the city and the citizenry would be destroyed to
>>> prevent creation of a resisting force.
>>>
>>> But why Mongols always won the wars? (Mongols were never defeated)
>>>
>>> These Mongols, these moving cities, on approaching Iran's eastern
>>> borders carried with them 20 years of accumulated experience, know-how,
>>> equipment, skilled men, warriors, designers, leaders, commanders,
>>> soldiers, and everything else that was required in a new war. It was not
>>> a force made of one people and something particular to them only. It was
>>> the aggregate of _everything_ in the art of war that people from
>>> Mongolia, China, and three other major central Asian civilizations had
>>> supplied them with. Mongols were already strong enough when they had
>>> defeated China 20 years earlier; just guess what they'd turned into when
>>> they approached Iran. Therefore by this time, nobody in the world, no
>>> fighting power in existence anywhere could defeat them. That's what Iran
>>> faced...
>>>
>>> Mongols knew that! And Iranians knew that! So for settlers it was all a
>>> matter of fighting to absolute annihilation, or staying aside and let
>>> this gigantic moving city pass through and take every god damn thing
>>> with it, reducing them to nothing but empty houses, old useless men and
>>> women and the sick and mentally defective. They even took all teenagers
>>> with them to train them they way they needed. Very very few cities or
>>> towns accepted Mongols terms. So destruction was indeed absolute and
>>> thorough.
>>>
>>> Iran to this day is recovering from it. China is just finishing the last
>>> stages of recovery from it. Korea is recovering from it fast. This
>>> thing, this Mongol phenomena, even today 800 years after, is an ongoing
>>> matter that's being dealt with. And nobody in it can be pointed fingers
>>> at. Mongols had to do what was right and had no other choice but doing
>>> what they did, and settlers had to do what they deemed right and
>>> honorable to do.
>>>
>>> It was a case of MH waging war against MH while both sides were correct
>>> in their approaches. It was nothing like WWI or WWII or all these wars
>>> fought by CH where ingrained stupidity is at the center. It was an
>>> eyeopening example of how MH never engages in war unless it is
>>> absolutely the correct approach in action.
>>>
>>> Must go walking now.
>>> -- 
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>> With cockroach wisdom two rights make a gigantic wrong.
> With wisdom one sees that Mongols as gigantically wrong crushing those of dubious correctness, creating thus a gigantic wrong of pain and bloodshed.
> With increased wisdom one sees that those crushed were a hapless lot leading wrong lives, amounting to a gigantic wrong.
> Two gigantic wrongs, multiplied, made the super-gargantuan right of the present world of peace, joy and prosperity for the Mongols and the descendants of those they slaughtered.
> Less trouble for doing gargantuan good, is to multiply two gigantic rights.
> Like my inventions, the Internal Force Engine and the Hydrogen Transmission Network.
> The way to go, for the next few thousand years.
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee

In the land of fantasies, Arindam Banerjee is a god. In the world of
realities, not so much.

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