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Re: Einstein's 1905 nonsense about simultaneity highlighted even more trivially

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On 11/5/2021 5:24 PM, Giovanni wrote:
> Bob is in the center of the station and Alice is in the center of the train.
> 
> When the train crosses the station and Bob is directly in front of Alice, two lightning strikes hit the head and tail of the train.
> 
> Bob tells Alice:
> 
> - two lightning strikes simultaneously hit the train, but not for you, because you, advancing together with the train, first saw the luminous wave front arriving from the head of the train and then the one starting from the tail of the train.
> 
> Alice tells Bob:
> 
> - you are crazy, look that although I was sleeping at that moment, I am able to prove you wrong, and in fact when the two lightning strikes woke me up, I went to examine the charred dead canary in the cage placed at the head of the train, and the dead canary charred in the cage placed at the end of the train, well, both were dead at the same time.

> Giovanni from Italy.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativity_of_simultaneity

"Einstein's version of the experiment[12] presumed that one observer was
sitting midway inside a speeding traincar and another was standing on a
platform as the train moved past. As measured by the standing observer,
the train is struck by two bolts of lightning simultaneously, but at
different positions along the axis of train movement (back and front of
the train car). In the inertial frame of the standing observer, there
are three events which are spatially dislocated, but simultaneous:
standing observer facing the moving observer (i.e., the center of the
train), lightning striking the front of the train car, and lightning
striking the back of the car.

"Since the events are placed along the axis of train movement, their
time
coordinates become projected to different time coordinates in the moving
train's inertial frame. Events which occurred at space coordinates in
the direction of train movement happen earlier than events at
coordinates opposite to the direction of train movement. In the moving
train's inertial frame, this means that lightning will strike the front
of the train car before the two observers align (face each other). "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativity_of_simultaneity

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Einstein's 1905 nonsense about simultaneity highlighted even more trivially Giovanni <giannifree@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 15:24 -0700
  Re: Einstein's 1905 nonsense about simultaneity highlighted even more trivially Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2021-11-06 10:14 +1100
  Re: Einstein's 1905 nonsense about simultaneity highlighted even more trivially whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-05 18:17 -0500
    Re: Einstein's 1905 nonsense about simultaneity highlighted even more trivially Giovanni <giannifree@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 17:55 -0700
  Re: Einstein's 1905 nonsense about simultaneity highlighted even more trivially Giovanni <giannifree@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 17:38 -0700
    Re: Einstein's 1905 nonsense about simultaneity highlighted even more trivially Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-11-05 23:40 -0400
      Re: Einstein's 1905 nonsense about simultaneity highlighted even more trivially Giovanni <giannifree@gmail.com> - 2021-11-06 02:32 -0700
        Re: Einstein's 1905 nonsense about simultaneity highlighted even more trivially Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2021-11-06 21:56 +1100
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            Re: Einstein's 1905 nonsense about simultaneity highlighted even more trivially Giovanni <giannifree@gmail.com> - 2021-11-06 04:39 -0700
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            Re: Einstein's 1905 nonsense about simultaneity highlighted even more trivially Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2021-11-07 09:20 +1100
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              Re: Einstein's 1905 nonsense about simultaneity highlighted even more trivially Giovanni <giannifree@gmail.com> - 2021-11-07 04:20 -0800
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