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Re: Is Debian still good for GUI stuff in an over 12 yrs. old PC?

From Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.linux, alt.os.linux, alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject Re: Is Debian still good for GUI stuff in an over 12 yrs. old PC?
Date 2021-09-03 12:09 -0700
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Mike Easter wrote:
>> Subject: Is Debian still good for GUI stuff in an over 12 yrs. old PC?
> 
> I don't think the Deb 11 KDE is a good fit for a low resource 2G machine 
> unless you are more skilled than I am to reduce its resource usage.
> 
> If I were set on stable Debian 11 as the base, then I would choose some 
> other DE/WM environment which uses less resources, either from Debian or 
> Sparky or even MX Linux.
> 
> If I were in love w/ the KDE environment, I would choose a 'better' 
> implementation of KDE which uses less resources than Debian's, 
> particularly KDE Neon, based on Ubuntu LTS which is based on Debian 
> testing.
> 
I booted the current Sep 2 KDE Neon on my low resource 2G desktop which 
could 'barely run' (as in quite sluggishly) the Debian 11 KDE nonfree. 
It took under 3 min to boot live to the desktop; free -m reports 382 
megs used.  The KDE Neon runs just fine.

That would be a satisfactory and VERY current KDE to use on a 15 y/o 2G 
machine.

The Neon KDE .iso does not come w/ a full complement of apps by default, 
so you would add those from the repo/s, which are of course Ub-based off 
Debian. The default package manager is Discover, but I prefer to add 
Synaptic.  The repo/s are the Ub Focal, main, universe, multiverse, and 
restricted as well as flathub and snap.

If I were going to use that KDE on that old hardware, I would do it w/ 
Neon's, not Debian, and use the package manager (synaptic for me, or 
apt) to add the necessary app/s for the activities you want to do w/ it. 
  You can add the mail and/or news agent of your choice; I see you use 
tin which is v. 1.2.4 in its universe repo/s.

One advantage of Ub over Deb in terms of packages is the availability of 
.ppa/s for the specific Ub Focal release.  Because Ub has a somewhat 
different release strategy than Deb, the balance of advantages and 
disadvantages to rolling vs point releases should be considered.

-- 
Mike Easter

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Is Debian still good for GUI stuff in an over 12 yrs. old PC? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2021-08-30 18:21 -0500
  Re: Is Debian still good for GUI stuff in an over 12 yrs. old PC? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2021-08-30 16:35 -0700
    Re: Is Debian still good for GUI stuff in an over 12 yrs. old PC? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2021-09-01 15:09 -0700
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      OT Re: Is Debian still good for GUI stuff in an over 12 yrs. old PC? jrg <jeff.g.group@att.net> - 2021-09-02 10:11 -0700
      Re: Is Debian still good for GUI stuff in an over 12 yrs. old PC? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2021-09-02 10:50 -0700
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  Re: Is Debian still good for GUI stuff in an over 12 yrs. old PC? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2021-08-30 20:45 -0700
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