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Re: Gates year 2003

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In reply to voodoo who posted:

> On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 14:57:58 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>
>> Kari Laine <karitlaine@yahoo.com> writes:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> attached is a piece from Gates. I don't buy it that there were no
>>> exploits before MS patched it. I am also sure that Open Source way of
>>> working with code is more secure than closed source. Also patches seems
>>> to come faster in Open Source world than MS world. But I must be wrong
>>> because Gates said so...
>> 
>> No you're wrong because you're full of shit.
>> 
>> Fixes come when people fix them.
>
> yes.
>
>> In closed source that can be immediate
>> give or take too - 
>
> yes.
>
>> depends on the SW and the severity.
>
> and also the interest of the owning company.
>
>> Closed source/proprietary obviously QA it more
>
> why is it obvious to you?
>
>> and do official
>> releases to save support costs and hosing their paying customers
>> so there is an advantage in that way.
>
> please explain the economic imperative for a monopoly to follow this 
> theory. include examples of microsoft in particular displaying this 
> behavior.
>
> how does paid support eat away support costs?
>
>> The OSS/Linux way is often "chuck it out there and see" -
>
> explain why you think this is different from the proprietary model. give 
> examples of microsoft in particular displaying an aversion to releasing 
> shoddy feature deficient products.

Here are a couple of examples of M$ shoddy  "chuck it out there and see"
crapware:   WindowsME & Vista. :-)

>> that said wonderful development like Git (thank you Linus) make
>> reverting to previous versions/tags trivial.
>
>> re security, You are aware that Debian has daily security updates too
>> right?
>
> yes.

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Gates year 2003 Kari Laine <karitlaine@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-17 15:34 +0300
  Re: Gates year 2003 Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2011-06-17 14:57 +0200
    Re: Gates year 2003 Kari Laine <karitlaine@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-17 21:29 +0300
    Re: Gates year 2003 voodoo <voodoo@tootycar.net> - 2011-06-18 07:11 +0000
      Re: Gates year 2003 William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2011-06-18 10:24 +0100
      Re: Gates year 2003 Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2011-06-18 07:05 -0400
        Re: Gates year 2003 Homer <usenet@slated.org> - 2011-06-18 21:05 +0100
  Re: Gates year 2003 Homer <usenet@slated.org> - 2011-06-17 18:49 +0100
    Re: Gates year 2003 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2011-06-17 11:02 -0700
      Re: Gates year 2003 flatfish+++ <flatfish@marianatrench.com> - 2011-06-17 14:30 -0400
        Re: Gates year 2003 Goblin <bytes4free@googlemail.com> - 2011-06-17 19:33 +0100
  Re: Gates year 2003 JeffM <jeffm_@email.com> - 2011-06-17 12:32 -0700
  Re: Gates year 2003 voodoo <voodoo@tootycar.net> - 2011-06-18 17:16 +0000

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