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On 17/01/2019 1:12 pm, john wrote:
> Sylvia
> “The temperature of a super-massive black hole, at least as seen from
> outside the event horizon, is as near to absolute zero as makes no
> difference.
> 
> So whatever's being detected with a temperature of a million degrees is
> not a black hole, but something outside it. ”
> This is from theory. Right?
> And that nothing comes out is also theory, right?
> So jets must be ‘splash’ from the accretion disc and temperature measured must also be from the accretion disc?
> Painting yourself into quite the corner, it seems.
> 

It's all theory - every bit of it. No matter how hard you try to pin 
down concrete observations, you always come back to theory. Even the 
things you think you're perceiving with your own eyes are just 
theoretical extrapolations that your brain is making based on the 
electrical impulses that appear in your optic nerve.

So when people seek to attack a theory without having observations that 
are inconsistent with it, what they really mean is that they want to 
keep those theories that fit their world view, and reject those that don't.

Such people are indistinguishable from cranks.

Sylvia.

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Black holes surprisingly cool john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-16 10:41 -0800
  Re: Black holes surprisingly cool Woe <woe_is_me@the_bar.room> - 2019-01-16 15:11 -0500
    Re: Black holes surprisingly cool Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-16 21:49 +0100
      Re: Black holes surprisingly cool "Chris M. Thomasson " <ahh_f_it@crap.nothing> - 2019-01-16 20:26 -0800
        Re: Black holes surprisingly cool Sergi o <invaliid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-17 14:43 -0600
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            Re: Black holes surprisingly cool "Chris M. Thomasson " <ahh_f_it@crap.nothing> - 2019-01-17 13:34 -0800
              Re: Black holes surprisingly cool mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-01-17 15:27 -0800
                Re: Black holes surprisingly cool "Chris M. Thomasson" <ahh_f_it@crap.nothing> - 2019-01-17 16:49 -0800
              Re: Black holes surprisingly cool Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-18 15:08 +0100
                Re: Black holes surprisingly cool Sergi o <invaliid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-18 10:29 -0600
                Re: Black holes surprisingly cool john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-18 09:31 -0800
    Re: Black holes surprisingly cool john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-16 16:20 -0800
      Re: Black holes surprisingly cool "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-01-16 20:39 -0500
      Re: Black holes surprisingly cool moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-17 19:37 +0000
  Re: Black holes surprisingly cool Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-01-17 12:50 +1100
    Re: Black holes surprisingly cool john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-16 18:12 -0800
      Re: Black holes surprisingly cool Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-01-17 13:20 +1100
        Re: Black holes surprisingly cool john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-16 20:13 -0800
          Re: Black holes surprisingly cool Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-01-17 16:43 +1100
            Re: Black holes surprisingly cool john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 02:24 -0800
              Re: Black holes surprisingly cool Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2019-01-18 00:12 +1100
                Re: Black holes surprisingly cool "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-01-17 09:54 -0500
                Re: Black holes surprisingly cool john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 07:03 -0800
                Re: Black holes surprisingly cool Sergi o <invaliid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-17 09:48 -0600
                Re: Black holes surprisingly cool moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-17 19:54 +0000
                Re: Black holes surprisingly cool Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-18 15:28 +0100
                Re: Black holes surprisingly cool Sergi o <invaliid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-17 09:08 -0600
              Re: Black holes surprisingly cool moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-17 19:46 +0000
          Re: Black holes surprisingly cool Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 16:24 +0000
        Re: Black holes surprisingly cool Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 16:38 -0800
    Re: Black holes surprisingly cool "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2019-01-17 09:47 -0800
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  Re: Black holes surprisingly cool mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2019-01-17 15:55 -0800
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