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| From | Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> |
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| Newsgroups | de.sci.electronics |
| Subject | Re: Made in China 1001? |
| Date | 2018-09-07 13:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fvg4urFnve8U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (13 earlier) <dsmq5f-aff.ln1@nntp.haselbeck-net.de> <pmecqq$ig2$1@news.bawue.net> <fv02l2Ff0cvU1@mid.individual.net> <pmeljd$m4u$1@news.bawue.net> <pmlede$n8a$1@news.albasani.net> |
On 2018-09-04 01:06, Wolfgang wrote: > Am 01.09.2018 um 20:25 schrieb Gerrit Heitsch: >> On 09/01/2018 08:08 PM, Kurt wrote: >> >>> Fehlerfall ist wenn z.B die 22V-Diode dauerhaft durchschaltet oder >>> länger eingreift. >> >> Korrekt.. Bei 22V wird wohl davon ausgegangen, daß das nie über >> längere Zeit auftritt und damit nur Spikes kurzgeschlossen werden. Bei >> einem 12V Bordnetz eine durchaus zulässige Annahme. >> >> Gerrit >> >> > > Das ist alles ein bißchen nebelhaft. Habt ihr schon mal ein Lastenheft > der Autoindustrie in der Hand gehabt? > Die einzelnen Marken unterscheiden sich geringfügig, aber meist gilt für > 12V Syteme: > > Jumpstart -> 24V mindestens 2 Minuten lang > > Load Dump -> 40V* - 60V für 300 - 500ms herstellerabhängig > > *die meisten haben heute eine fette Z-Diode als zentrale Begrenzung auf > ca. 40V eingebaut Wie rechtfertigen die dann eine 22V Z-Diode, zumal diese Dinger noch ordentlich Toleranz haben? Habe gerade schmerzhaft (im wahrsten Sinne des Wortes) zu spueren bekommen, wieviel Toleranz selbst Stecker haben koennen. Molex Sabre 7.5mm, sechspolig, ging nur mit Schraubstock rein. Raus vermutlich nur mit Plastiksprengstoff, Meissel oder so. Ich muss aber 19 weitere Prototypen testen und dafuer jeweils umstecken. -- Gruesse, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/
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Made in China 1001? "Wolfgang Allinger" <all2001@spambog.com> - 2018-08-30 20:51 -0400
Re: Made in China 1001? Gerhard Hoffmann <ghf@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de> - 2018-08-31 03:20 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? "Peter Heitzer" <peter.heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de> - 2018-08-31 06:47 +0000
Re: Made in China 1001? Andreas Graebe <graebe@beuth-hochschule.de> - 2018-08-31 19:55 +0000
Re: Made in China 1001? "MaWin" <me@private.net> - 2018-09-01 13:30 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2018-09-01 13:39 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2018-09-01 16:02 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Andreas Graebe <graebe@beuth-hochschule.de> - 2018-09-02 05:44 +0000
Re: Made in China 1001? olaf <olaf@criseis.ruhr.de> - 2018-08-31 22:03 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-08-31 14:01 -0700
Re: Made in China 1001? Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2018-08-31 23:25 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-08-31 15:02 -0700
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg Fischer <muelleimer@jfis.de> - 2018-09-01 09:02 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Andreas Neumann <an5275@sedo.com> - 2018-09-01 09:31 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? olaf <olaf@criseis.ruhr.de> - 2018-09-01 10:40 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Andreas Neumann <an5275@sedo.com> - 2018-09-01 12:13 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2018-09-01 12:45 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? "Wolfgang Allinger" <all2001@spambog.com> - 2018-09-01 07:06 -0400
Re: Made in China 1001? Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2018-09-01 16:00 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Klaus Butzmann <kb.usenet@butzomail.de> - 2018-09-01 15:28 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg Fischer <muelleimer@jfis.de> - 2018-09-01 20:27 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? horejsi <wolfgang@horejsi.de> - 2018-09-02 10:39 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-02 19:42 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? "horst.d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2018-09-02 13:34 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2018-09-01 10:23 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2018-09-01 09:22 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2018-09-01 11:10 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? olaf <olaf@criseis.ruhr.de> - 2018-09-01 11:32 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2018-09-01 12:42 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2018-09-01 13:50 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? "horst.d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2018-09-01 15:13 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2018-09-01 16:04 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2018-09-01 16:31 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2018-09-01 16:35 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2018-09-01 16:30 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2018-09-01 16:42 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2018-09-01 17:20 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2018-09-01 17:56 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? "Wolfgang Allinger" <all2001@spambog.com> - 2018-09-01 12:48 -0400
Re: Made in China 1001? Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-01 19:55 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2018-09-01 20:22 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-01 22:27 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-09-01 13:38 -0700
Re: Made in China 1001? "horst.d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2018-09-02 06:00 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-02 22:44 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2018-09-03 13:12 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? "Wolfgang Allinger" <all2001@spambog.com> - 2018-09-03 08:02 -0400
Re: Made in China 1001? Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2018-09-03 22:45 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? "Wolfgang Allinger" <all2001@spambog.com> - 2018-09-04 07:55 -0400
Re: Made in China 1001? Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2018-09-04 19:02 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-04 23:05 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-04 23:05 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Kurt <kurt.bindl@t-online.de> - 2018-09-01 20:08 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2018-09-01 20:25 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Wolfgang <wsc.allmail@web.de> - 2018-09-04 10:06 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2018-09-04 10:10 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-09-07 13:21 -0700
Re: Made in China 1001? Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2018-09-08 18:35 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-09-08 10:19 -0700
Re: Made in China 1001? Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-11 22:23 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2018-09-11 22:31 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-09-11 16:41 -0700
Re: Made in China 1001? Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-22 18:46 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2018-09-22 19:08 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Guido Grohmann <guido.grohmann@gmx.de> - 2018-09-23 15:08 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-26 20:37 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2018-09-27 07:06 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? "horst.d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2018-09-27 08:29 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Bernd Laengerich <bernd.laengerich@web.de> - 2018-09-27 10:43 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-09-22 12:40 -0700
Re: Made in China 1001? Eric Bruecklmeier <usenet@nerdcraft.de> - 2018-09-23 10:07 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-09-23 07:22 -0700
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-09-01 07:47 -0700
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-09-01 07:42 -0700
Re: Made in China 1001? Klaus Butzmann <kb.usenet@butzomail.de> - 2018-09-01 17:27 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-01 22:37 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-09-01 15:00 -0700
Re: Made in China 1001? Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2018-09-02 21:02 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? horejsi <wolfgang@horejsi.de> - 2018-09-03 07:03 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-09-03 12:22 -0700
Re: Made in China 1001? Hans-Peter Diettrich <DrDiettrich1@aol.com> - 2018-09-04 02:13 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Leo Baumann <charly020664@yahoo.de> - 2018-09-04 02:33 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-02 23:02 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-09-03 12:32 -0700
Re: Made in China 1001? Guido Grohmann <guido.grohmann@gmx.de> - 2018-09-03 21:45 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? "horst.d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2018-09-04 05:23 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? "Wolfgang Allinger" <all2001@spambog.com> - 2018-09-04 08:00 -0400
Re: Made in China 1001? "horst.d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2018-09-04 15:07 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2018-09-04 10:04 +0800
Re: Made in China 1001? Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2018-09-04 04:12 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Gerhard Hoffmann <ghf@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de> - 2018-09-04 11:04 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-04 22:11 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2018-09-02 20:53 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-09-03 12:34 -0700
Re: Made in China 1001? Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2018-09-04 01:07 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-09-04 16:46 -0700
Re: Made in China 1001? Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2018-09-02 20:56 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-03 20:03 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2018-09-01 19:33 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2018-09-01 19:41 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2018-09-01 20:20 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2018-09-01 20:48 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-09-01 07:37 -0700
Re: Made in China 1001? Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-01 20:14 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Holger Schieferdecker <spamless@gmx.de> - 2018-10-01 16:54 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2018-10-01 17:41 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2018-10-01 17:46 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2018-10-01 18:20 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2018-10-01 18:28 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Stefan Heimers <stefan.usenet@heimers.ch> - 2018-10-01 21:43 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Stefan Heimers <stefan.usenet@heimers.ch> - 2018-10-01 21:49 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2018-10-02 00:20 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Holger Schieferdecker <spamless@gmx.de> - 2018-10-02 09:22 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? "Wolfgang Allinger" <all2001@spambog.com> - 2018-09-01 07:00 -0400
Re: Made in China 1001? Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-01 22:43 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? "Wolfgang Allinger" <all2001@spambog.com> - 2018-09-01 21:00 -0400
Re: Made in China 1001? Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-04 22:21 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-09-05 03:37 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? "horst.d.winzler" <horst.d.winzler@web.de> - 2018-09-05 11:31 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Rupert Haselbeck <mein-rest-muell@gmx.de> - 2018-09-05 12:10 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Eric Bruecklmeier <usenet@nerdcraft.de> - 2018-09-05 13:29 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Dieter Wiedmann <dieter.wiedmann@t-online.de> - 2018-09-05 14:57 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2018-09-05 16:44 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-07 23:36 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Siegfried Blos <usenet@siegfried-blos.de> - 2018-08-31 15:32 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Anton Triol <anton@mailinator.com> - 2018-08-31 09:55 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2018-08-31 11:02 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? "Wolfgang Allinger" <all2001@spambog.com> - 2018-08-31 11:27 -0400
Re: Made in China 1001? Martin Klaiber <usenet.martinkl@gmx.de> - 2018-09-01 09:33 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-01 22:48 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2018-09-02 20:52 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-08-31 10:31 -0700
Re: Made in China 1001? "Wolfgang Allinger" <all2001@spambog.com> - 2018-08-31 15:24 -0400
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-08-31 12:58 -0700
Re: Made in China 1001? "Wolfgang Allinger" <all2001@spambog.com> - 2018-09-01 07:31 -0400
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-09-01 07:15 -0700
Re: Made in China 1001? Rolf Bombach <rolfnospambombach@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-31 22:48 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? "Wolfgang Allinger" <all2001@spambog.com> - 2018-09-01 07:41 -0400
Re: Made in China 1001? Axel Berger <Spam@Berger-Odenthal.De> - 2018-08-31 22:05 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Andreas Neumann <an5275@sedo.com> - 2018-08-31 22:34 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-08-31 14:38 -0700
Re: Made in China 1001? olaf <olaf@criseis.ruhr.de> - 2018-09-01 06:18 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2018-09-01 07:32 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? olaf <olaf@criseis.ruhr.de> - 2018-09-01 09:03 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? "Wolfgang Allinger" <all2001@spambog.com> - 2018-09-01 07:49 -0400
Re: Made in China 1001? Andreas Neumann <an5275@sedo.com> - 2018-09-01 09:13 +0200
Re: Made in China 1001? Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2018-08-31 13:50 -0700
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Re: Made in China 1001? olaf <olaf@criseis.ruhr.de> - 2018-08-31 22:16 +0200
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