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Re: 9/22/2021: Are We There Yet?

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On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 4:40:54 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 3:24:50 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 3:23:30 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 4:00:00 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 1:58:04 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > On Thursday, October 6, 2022 at 3:50:28 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 4:59:25 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > On Saturday, October 1, 2022 at 3:41:41 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 2:32:53 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 4:01:00 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 3:01:41 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 5:31:29 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 3:11:34 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 1:48:26 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 8:28:45 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 12:38:21 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 2:24:45 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 3:27:16 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 4:34:42 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 3:45:58 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 12:23:39 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 1:43:12 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, August 13, 2022 at 4:24:51 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 4:22:04 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 2:23:04 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 3:42:27 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 5:34:46 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 3:22:59 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 11:02:40 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 1:19:08 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, March 28, 2022 at 10:50:26 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 2:20:44 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 12:19:43 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, March 23, 2022 at 11:55:58 AM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 4:52:04 PM UTC-7, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 5:57:19 AM UTC-8, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 10:11:02 PM UTC-8, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 9:06:41 PM UTC-8, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 7:43:34 AM UTC-8, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, December 6, 2021 at 11:06:05 PM UTC-8, Jeffrey Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 9, 2021 at 6:50:55 PM UTC-8, Jeff Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, November 4, 2021 at 4:54:48 PM UTC-7, Jeff Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 4:04:12 PM UTC-7, Jeff Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 1:52:42 PM UTC-7, Jeff Rubard wrote: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The "simple but complicated" story is that some games people play in Portland -- with the connivance of authorities in various locales -- work against the normal process of legal discovery. An "inconvenient truth" about an inconvenient person is systematically covered up by nonsense "hi there! hi there" hijinks which are very dangerous as well as deceptive. Does this sound good to you? Not much of a thinker, are we? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You don't just call something "circular fraud" or "ticket fraud" in person, obvs. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would instead call it "passing the buck" or "coulda-shoulda-woulda" and get bad results... 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because those kinds of "blow-offs" are of course *designed* to work pretty reliably and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they have the clout to *make* them work reliably. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The rest of the world remains what it is, including that you're wise to endlessly say 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Oh, what a goose am I!" as they "goose" you. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Well, guy, doesn't everything seem normal now?" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Um, yeah, it does. Maybe it's kind of like that? Like that kind of unquantifiable nonsense *just stops*, like a water faucet or something? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At any rate, another person's physical well-being isn't really 'your call' on most comprehensible understandings. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Blown out of proportion." I'm not sure that December 9, 2021 would even live in *notoriety* if your average Portlander ended up really not enjoying it. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Still, mostly "what they did say" was not really along the lines of a rebuke strong enough to charge them on: and wouldn't you not quite know that, when one's words do reach that level of vitriol, those types somehow don't care? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 1/2 months? Is that about right? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Less or more time since the initial message in this thread? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2022 Update: I guess "we are there yet", and an immense amount of time is approximately indicated by this gesture. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Wisdom of Age: Intellectual property theft figures in it more heavily than you would think. No, not yours.) 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So that initial post was... seven months ago? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "No, six months ago." 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I guess that's right. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't it? Would there be "quibbling" to do in this case? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly, today is Sunday, March 27, 2022. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or isn't it? Did I "get the date wrong"? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you suppose some factual claims are "untrue"? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps the point of this slightly chiding statement by Wittgenstein: 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Thought can be of what is not the case." 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or the more familiar "Popperian" idea that if nothing could count as a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > statement's being *wrong*, it's not the product of scientific inquiry. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Furthermore, the so-to-speak "stickler veto" isn't so much, either. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know Mark Lanegan from the legendary NW band Screaming Trees 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > died? "Hmmm, I'm not sure..." No, there were reliable reports of it in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the press, y'know... 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So how's everybody doing? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...for some value of "everybody" that would be discomfited by public circumstance in the Portland metro area recently. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Update: I guess, with the "Light in August" phenomenon, we are done. (Like, that is as *late* as possible as such "patent deceptions" can end.) 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How was everybody's July? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some kind of way, right? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Other facts are a little more "dialed-in", but we're getting there! 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A beautiful Monday afternoon in the state of Oregon, not any other state at all. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You've got it! (Some of your other ideas may be insane and dangerous, though.) 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I don't think so." 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have at least heard of "self-deception", right? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Update: So how's the end of summer 2022 treating everyone? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Update: Yeah, we're there yet. "In the Fall"... well, who could say? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Um, Jeffrey Lent?" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's not go there. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Why not?" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You wouldn't want to talk about those books! Besides, it isn't fall yet. Right? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is almost one year later, though? Right? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Right." 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So we can agree about some things! 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Oh, yeah, it's definitely September 2022, heh heh, right." 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure. That's not a very finely discriminating sense of empirical fact though, now, is it? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do people think of the FX bus service's opening, for example? 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (This sort of line isn't called something funny like a "crazy train", is it?) 
> > > > > > > > > > > > I rode on it. It was okay. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Nobody cares." 
> > > > > > > > > > > > That's normal. "Making shit up" about someone in personal trouble is... kinda not. 
> > > > > > > > > > > One year later... 
> > > > > > > > > > (You do suppose that is a one-year time interval, I guess?) 
> > > > > > > > > Update: So, what do you have planned for October 2022? 
> > > > > > > > "Ignoring you." 
> > > > > > > > Awesome! 
> > > > > > > But, sure, it's October 2022. 
> > > > > > Isn't it? 
> > > > > > "Yes." 
> > > > > > Ah, there were the objective facts I was looking for! 
> > > > > ...and President Biden just visited, right? 
> > > > > "Boy, did he ever." 
> > > > > Expert knowledge on particular topics already! Co-ool! 
> > > > Not quite a year and a month since the original post, huh? 
> > > > "I guess." 
> > > > The pleasures of agreement! 
> > > "But what if I said it wasn't?" 
> > > You would be "speaking falsely", wouldn't you? 
> > "Well, now it's *exactly* a year and a month since that post. Ha!" 
> > This is, honestly, a kind of "logical sophistry" some of us have become used to having 
> > heavily "doled out" upon us. It, personally, doesn't seem to make anything like the 
> > amount of sense its enthusiasts think it makes. (And that's a "tame" example.)
> My long-time impression of Portland "trolling": they thought a "smoke machine" actually became a "zero-gravity machine", 
> and committed horrendous trespasses against other people based on this well-nigh-schizoid impression.

Yeah, if you keep "moving goalposts", well... then, maybe don't make "rash decisions" on the bad information that generates.

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