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Re: Wing mirrors on cars

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups uk.rec.driving, uk.d-i-y, alt.home.repair
Subject Re: Wing mirrors on cars
Date 2018-01-03 08:12 +1100
Message-ID <fb2auaFf8jaU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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"Clare Snyder" <clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote in message 
news:28rn4dtf86n36nr11eqfjse7ua46b9bkr2@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 15:24:49 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Clare Snyder" <clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote in message
>>news:0u1m4ddfvmmbaml0i5raclkqk8ftcsbpph@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 14:26:18 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"NY" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:qPOdnUjx9bF4IdfHnZ2dnUU78Y_NnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>>>> "Bob Eager" <news0006@eager.cx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:favgrsF3tqfU8@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>> On Mon, 01 Jan 2018 18:37:16 +0000, charles wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <op.zb6c7dk7js98qf@red.lan>, James Wilkinson Sword
>>>>>>> <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 01 Jan 2018 10:13:03 -0000, Jimbo ...
>>>>>>>> <jim.gm4dhj@ntlworld.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> > news:op.zb4md4mujs98qf@red.lan...
>>>>>>>> >> Why do we still have wing mirrors on cars?  They should be 
>>>>>>>> >> little
>>>>>>>> >> screens powered by cameras, to reduce drag.  Sports cars even do
>>>>>>>> >> away with door handles, but still have mirrors stuck out!
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > wing mirrors work...digital things don't
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How much digital stuff is already on your car which works better 
>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>> the thing it replaced?  Electronic ignition?  Electronic gear
>>>>>>>> changes?
>>>>>>>> Electronic climate control?  Or do you want to go back to a car 
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> belt drive transmission, a carburettor, and a heater that works if 
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> feels like it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and no synchromesh on first and only one wiper !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You mean with synchromesh on second? Luxury! (OK, it was a 1952 Land
>>>>>> Rover)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I imagine that no synchromesh on first isn't too much of a hardship
>>>>> because you usually engage first while at rest, and it's rarer to have
>>>>> to
>>>>> change from second to first on the move. Not having it on second 
>>>>> either
>>>>> must be a serious problem because you almost invariably change from
>>>>> first
>>>>> to second (on the move) and probably have to do changes from higher
>>>>> gears
>>>>> to second when approaching a hill.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a matter of interest, how do people such as Bob manage the
>>>>> no-sync-on-second problem? By learning how to double-declutch, which
>>>>> sounds an incredible laborious procedure, fraught with problems at 
>>>>> every
>>>>> step, when it's described on paper, or by doing a clutchless change 
>>>>> from
>>>>> a
>>>>> lower or higher gear (which is fairly easy to learn to do, certainly 
>>>>> in
>>>>> a
>>>>> synchromesh gearbox - some gearboxes are easier than others - but I
>>>>> imagine is more difficult in a non-sync box because there aren't any
>>>>> sync
>>>>> cones helping to induce the gear wheel and shaft to go at the same
>>>>> speed,
>>>>> so you need to be quicker to hit the precise split-second when the dog
>>>>> clutches are a) going at the same speed, and b) accurately lined up so
>>>>> the
>>>>> hills on one fit into the valleys on the other.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suppose you can only acquire the skill of double-declutching on a
>>>>> non-sync box because with synchromesh you can move the gear lever from
>>>>> one
>>>>> ratio to any other (reverse excluded!) irrespective of whether you've
>>>>> matched the shaft speeds properly during the first press of the 
>>>>> clutch -
>>>>> only when you let the clutch up the second time do you find out 
>>>>> whether
>>>>> you've got it right or whether there's a lurch due to mismatch (or
>>>>> course
>>>>> with non-sync, you wouldn't get to the second clutch press unless 
>>>>> you'd
>>>>> already got it right because you wouldn't have succeeded in engaging 
>>>>> the
>>>>> new gear!)
>>>>>
>>>>> When I was taking my IAM advanced test, the textbook Roadcraft was 
>>>>> still
>>>>> recommending DDC on cars with synchromesh, and I raised the point 
>>>>> about
>>>>> "how do you learn it on a sync gearbox" and the "observer" agreed that
>>>>> it
>>>>> was impossible to learn because you could never get any right/wrong
>>>>> feedback to show you that you needed to alter engine speed up/down a
>>>>> bit,
>>>>> and that it was unnecessary and time-wasting in a situation where the
>>>>> engine and wheels should be disconnected for the minimum length of 
>>>>> time,
>>>>> without inserting an extra up-down step, especially when you are going
>>>>> uphill and need to maintain traction with the briefest pause that is
>>>>> humanly possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd say that of all the refinements on cars, a fully-sync gearbox is
>>>>> probably the one that I could not manage without. Everything else
>>>>> (heater,
>>>>> electric wipers and washer, electric mirrors, ABS, traction control,
>>>>> even
>>>>> non-hand-signal indicators) are very nice to have but at a pinch you
>>>>> could
>>>>> do without them.
>>>>
>>>>You also wouldn't be able to do without electric starters.
>>
>>> Why not,
>>
>>Modern cars have much higher compression ratios so even if you
>>had a starting handle, you wouldn't be able to start the car that way.
>>
>>> I've hand cranked quite a few cars,
>>
>>Not a modern car you havent.
>>
>>> and I "bump start" my Ranger just about every morning when
>>> there's no snow. It rolls back my lightly sloped driveway about
>>> 4 feet, and turns about 1/4 turn and it's running.
>>
>>Fat lot of use that is if there is no slope.
>>
>>> If it had a crank it would be a cinch to crank start.
>>
>>Bullshit.
>
> How about a85, or an O235 - even with a nasty antique carb and a
> magneto they can be hand started, and they are a LOT harder to turn
> over than a 4 liter V6. (sure, the "crank handle " is a bit longer)

Its bullshit to claim that they are a cinch to crank start.

> I've hand cranked some pretty large stiff old engines in
> my time - as well as Peugots, VW, Land Rover, Austin, etc.

Those arent modern high compression engines.

> With electronic spark and injection you only need about a quarter
> turn, unlike the old stuff that you needed to "roll over" at leat one
> full turn - and that's after "pulling it through" at least one or two
> turns with the spark off - - - .

That's bullshit too with modern computer controlled fuel injected engines.

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                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-04 22:04 +0000
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                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-03 08:50 +0000
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                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-05 21:57 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-01-06 09:43 +1100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars boltar@cylonHQ.com - 2018-01-05 09:38 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-05 13:25 +0000
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                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-06 02:46 +0000
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                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-08 14:08 +0000
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                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-02 13:08 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2018-01-02 22:00 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-02 21:04 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-04 22:03 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-04 22:05 +0000
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                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-01 21:47 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-01 23:46 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-02 19:26 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-02 20:10 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-01-03 08:02 +1100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> - 2018-01-02 19:55 -0500
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-04 21:16 +0000
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              Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-01 00:39 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-01 18:17 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-01 13:58 -0700
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                Re: Wing mirrors on cars TMS320 <dr6092@gmail.com> - 2018-01-05 13:52 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars boltar@cylonHQ.com - 2018-01-05 16:45 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars TMS320 <dr6092@gmail.com> - 2018-01-05 21:16 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-05 22:25 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars boltar@cylonHQ.com - 2018-01-08 10:01 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-01-08 11:29 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars boltar@cylonHQ.com - 2018-01-08 11:56 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-08 14:05 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-08 12:43 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-08 20:19 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars TMS320 <dr6092@gmail.com> - 2018-01-08 16:21 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2018-01-08 16:46 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2018-01-05 17:29 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars TMS320 <dr6092@gmail.com> - 2018-01-06 00:22 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-02 21:59 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2018-01-03 10:28 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2018-01-03 13:23 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars boltar@cylonHQ.com - 2018-01-03 14:23 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2018-01-03 15:19 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars boltar@cylonHQ.com - 2018-01-03 15:54 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2018-01-03 16:47 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2018-01-03 18:43 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2018-01-04 01:00 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-07 19:13 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars boltar@cylonHQ.com - 2018-01-04 11:19 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2018-01-04 12:10 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2018-01-04 12:14 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars boltar@cylonHQ.com - 2018-01-04 14:16 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars boltar@cylonHQ.com - 2018-01-04 14:13 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars roger@hayter.org (Roger Hayter) - 2018-01-04 17:12 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-07 19:16 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-07 19:15 +0000
                Re: Wanker Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson" LOL), the Sociopathic Attention Whore The Peeler <finishingoff@TheRevd.invalid> - 2018-01-07 22:09 +0100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-07 19:14 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars roger@hayter.org (Roger Hayter) - 2018-01-03 22:30 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2018-01-04 02:23 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-07 18:51 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-03 12:04 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2018-01-03 19:15 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-03 20:01 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars damduck-egg@yahoo.co.uk - 2018-01-03 20:50 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-03 22:17 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars damduck-egg@yahoo.co.uk - 2018-01-03 22:58 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-03 17:33 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars damduck-egg@yahoo.co.uk - 2018-01-04 01:07 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-03 20:03 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-07 20:26 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-07 15:23 -0700
                Re: lowbrowman, Birdbrain's senile whore! The Peeler <finishingoff@TheRevd.invalid> - 2018-01-07 23:31 +0100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-08 16:32 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-08 13:13 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> - 2018-01-03 19:44 -0500
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-07 20:26 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-07 21:06 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars damduck-egg@yahoo.co.uk - 2018-01-08 00:07 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-08 09:29 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-01-09 00:25 +1100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2018-01-08 10:12 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-08 10:46 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-01-09 00:56 +1100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-08 17:56 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-01-08 08:49 +1100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-08 17:57 +0000
                Re: Wanker Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson" LOL), the Sociopathic Attention Whore The Peeler <finishingoff@TheRevd.invalid> - 2018-01-08 19:28 +0100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-07 20:27 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 10:12 +1100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-03 17:31 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Ed <esp@snet.net> - 2018-01-04 11:49 -0500
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2018-01-04 17:49 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-04 18:01 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-07 20:31 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-01-08 08:37 +1100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-01-05 10:22 +1100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-07 20:28 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.net> - 2018-01-07 16:00 -0500
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-08 15:51 +0000
                Re: Wanker Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson" LOL), the Sociopathic Attention Whore The Peeler <finishingoff@TheRevd.invalid> - 2018-01-08 19:29 +0100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-01-08 08:43 +1100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-07 20:24 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-07 21:01 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-08 16:28 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-01-08 08:47 +1100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-08 19:13 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-07 20:23 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-01-04 08:11 +1100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-03 17:27 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> - 2018-01-03 19:49 -0500
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-03 19:50 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> - 2018-01-03 23:30 -0500
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-04 07:52 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-07 19:21 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-07 20:39 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-08 15:50 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars boltar@cylonHQ.com - 2018-01-04 11:07 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2018-01-04 11:14 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2018-01-04 11:22 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars boltar@cylonHQ.com - 2018-01-04 14:11 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-04 14:28 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars boltar@cylonHQ.com - 2018-01-04 14:49 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2018-01-04 15:20 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars boltar@cylonHQ.com - 2018-01-04 16:53 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2018-01-04 21:39 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2018-01-04 23:03 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars boltar@cylonHQ.com - 2018-01-05 09:35 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2018-01-04 17:40 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-07 20:37 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars boltar@cylonHQ.com - 2018-01-04 11:27 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2018-01-04 11:42 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2018-01-04 15:48 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars roger@hayter.org (Roger Hayter) - 2018-01-04 17:12 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2018-01-04 19:33 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2018-01-04 22:15 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-07 20:41 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars roger@hayter.org (Roger Hayter) - 2018-01-05 13:24 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-07 19:20 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars boltar@cylonHQ.com - 2018-01-04 11:03 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-04 07:58 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-07 19:18 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-07 15:19 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-08 16:31 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-07 18:49 +0000
                Re: Wanker Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson" LOL), the Sociopathic Attention Whore The Peeler <finishingoff@TheRevd.invalid> - 2018-01-07 22:09 +0100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-03 11:57 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-01 18:28 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2018-01-01 19:27 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-02 00:00 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-01 18:15 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-01 14:06 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "Mr Pounder Esquire" <MrPounder@RationalThought.com> - 2018-01-01 21:10 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "Mr Pounder Esquire" <MrPounder@RationalThought.com> - 2018-01-01 21:28 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-02 17:26 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2018-01-02 18:50 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-03 16:25 +0000
        Re: Wing mirrors on cars Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2017-12-31 21:01 +0000
          Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-12-31 21:30 +0000
            Re: Wing mirrors on cars Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2017-12-31 21:23 -0800
              Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-01 16:17 +0000
          Re: Wing mirrors on cars Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.net> - 2017-12-31 17:23 -0500
            Re: Wing mirrors on cars Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-12-31 22:43 +0000
              Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-12-31 23:05 +0000
              Re: Wing mirrors on cars damduck-egg@yahoo.co.uk - 2017-12-31 23:15 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-01 00:40 +0000
          Re: Wing mirrors on cars Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> - 2017-12-31 17:54 -0500
            Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-12-31 23:07 +0000
              Re: Wing mirrors on cars Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2017-12-31 23:29 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars damduck-egg@yahoo.co.uk - 2018-01-01 00:13 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-01 00:47 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-01 00:48 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> - 2018-01-01 01:59 -0500
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "tim..." <tims_new_home@yahoo.com> - 2018-01-01 11:39 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-01 18:30 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-01 18:29 +0000
              Re: Wing mirrors on cars Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2017-12-31 21:26 -0800
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2018-01-01 10:00 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-01 18:27 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "Mr Pounder Esquire" <MrPounder@RationalThought.com> - 2018-01-01 19:35 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-02 00:01 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Peeler <sociopath's@nightmare.invalid> - 2018-01-02 10:42 +0100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars mechanic <mechanic@example.net> - 2018-01-01 10:49 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-01 18:27 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-01 18:27 +0000
            Re: Wing mirrors on cars Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-12-31 23:11 +0000
              Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-01 00:39 +0000
          Re: Wing mirrors on cars "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2018-01-01 10:16 +1100
          Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-01 00:42 -0700
            Re: Wing mirrors on cars Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2018-01-01 13:20 +0000
              Re: Wing mirrors on cars Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.net> - 2018-01-01 10:01 -0500
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Davey <davey@example.invalid> - 2018-01-01 15:15 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.net> - 2018-01-01 11:36 -0500
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-01 21:33 +0000
                Re: Wanker Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson" LOL), the Sociopathic Attention Whore The Peeler <finishingoff@TheRevd.invalid> - 2018-01-02 10:56 +0100
              Re: Wing mirrors on cars Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> - 2018-01-01 10:57 -0500
        Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-12-31 21:32 +0000
          Re: Wing mirrors on cars Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2017-12-31 23:31 +0000
            Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-01 00:40 +0000
              Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-01 00:45 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2018-01-01 09:58 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars roger@hayter.org (Roger Hayter) - 2018-01-01 11:43 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-01 17:16 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-01 14:13 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-01 23:41 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Gil <gil@nospam.cya> - 2018-01-01 21:00 -0500
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "tim..." <tims_new_home@yahoo.com> - 2018-01-01 11:42 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-01 14:16 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-02 17:22 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Nick Finnigan <Nix@genie.co.uk> - 2018-01-01 15:30 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "tim..." <tims_new_home@yahoo.com> - 2018-01-01 18:50 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-01 14:17 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-02 17:23 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-02 17:23 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2018-01-02 18:52 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2018-01-02 21:04 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-02 21:31 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-04 21:21 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-04 21:04 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> - 2018-01-01 10:59 -0500
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-01 14:18 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-02 17:24 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-01 17:18 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-01 14:21 -0700
                Re: lowbrowman, Birdbrain's old whore! The Peeler <finishingoff@TheRevd.invalid> - 2018-01-02 10:32 +0100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-02 17:26 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-02 17:36 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-03 16:04 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-02 13:56 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-03 22:45 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-03 18:12 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> - 2018-01-03 21:07 -0500
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-03 20:08 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-05 18:12 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-05 21:08 -0700
                Re: lowbrowman, Birdbrain's senile whore! The Peeler <finishingoff@TheRevd.invalid> - 2018-01-06 11:13 +0100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2018-01-02 21:06 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-03 23:32 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Bod <bodron57@yahoo.co.uk> - 2018-01-04 09:34 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-04 07:55 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-05 18:15 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2018-01-05 20:24 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-05 21:42 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-05 23:46 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-05 23:59 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-06 00:34 +0000
                Re: Wanker Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson" LOL), the Sociopathic Attention Whore The Peeler <finishingoff@TheRevd.invalid> - 2018-01-06 11:13 +0100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-06 20:32 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-08 14:06 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-08 16:13 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-08 16:19 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars soup <cheesesoupnews@hotmail.com> - 2018-01-08 19:36 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-08 20:19 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Steve Walker <steve@walker-family.me.uk> - 2018-01-06 02:49 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars The Peeler <finishingoff@TheRevd.invalid> - 2018-01-06 23:05 +0100
                Re: Wanker Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson" LOL), the Sociopathic Attention Whore The Peeler <finishingoff@TheRevd.invalid> - 2018-01-06 00:59 +0100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Bod <bodron57@yahoo.co.uk> - 2018-01-06 07:40 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-01-06 08:05 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-06 14:58 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-06 11:37 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Bod <bodron57@yahoo.co.uk> - 2018-01-06 18:44 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-06 13:29 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2018-01-06 20:57 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-06 18:20 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-08 12:07 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-08 13:04 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2018-01-06 19:16 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "Mr Pounder Esquire" <MrPounder@RationalThought.com> - 2018-01-06 19:31 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-06 19:35 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "Mr Pounder Esquire" <MrPounder@RationalThought.com> - 2018-01-06 20:07 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-06 22:10 +0000
                Re: Wanker Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson" LOL), the Sociopathic Attention Whore The Peeler <finishingoff@TheRevd.invalid> - 2018-01-07 00:42 +0100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "Kyle Smythe" <ksmythe@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2018-01-06 19:35 +0000
                Re: Wanker Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson" LOL), the Sociopathic Attention Whore The Peeler <finishingoff@TheRevd.invalid> - 2018-01-06 21:31 +0100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2018-01-06 20:56 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "Winchester Klingon" <alien@fuckwit.co.uk> - 2018-01-07 00:10 +0000
                Re: Wanker Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson" LOL), the Sociopathic Attention Whore The Peeler <finishingoff@TheRevd.invalid> - 2018-01-07 01:16 +0100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2018-01-06 20:35 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-06 18:30 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "Mr Pounder Esquire" <MrPounder@RationalThought.com> - 2018-01-06 19:00 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-06 19:32 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "Mr Pounder Esquire" <MrPounder@RationalThought.com> - 2018-01-06 20:16 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-06 22:13 +0000
                Re: Wanker Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson" LOL), the Sociopathic Attention Whore Peeler <sociopath's@nightmare.invalid> - 2018-01-06 21:30 +0100
                Re: Wanker Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson" LOL), the Sociopathic Attention Whore The Peeler <finishingoff@TheRevd.invalid> - 2018-01-05 21:45 +0100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars soup <cheesesoupnews@hotmail.com> - 2018-01-02 22:35 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-03 23:52 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-01 18:03 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2018-01-01 20:30 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> - 2018-01-01 17:25 -0500
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2018-01-01 23:03 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-06 15:08 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars soup <cheesesoupnews@hotmail.com> - 2018-01-01 23:07 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-06 15:09 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-01 18:47 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-06 15:10 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-01 14:26 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> - 2018-01-01 17:23 -0500
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-01 23:57 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> - 2018-01-01 20:34 -0500
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2018-01-02 10:00 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars boltar@cylonHQ.com - 2018-01-02 10:12 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars damduck-egg@yahoo.co.uk - 2018-01-02 10:19 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars boltar@cylonHQ.com - 2018-01-02 10:26 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-01-02 10:48 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> - 2018-01-02 15:30 -0500
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-02 13:32 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2018-01-02 10:36 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars boltar@cylonHQ.com - 2018-01-02 14:08 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-02 13:34 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-02 22:33 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-02 21:29 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars boltar@cylonHQ.com - 2018-01-03 10:46 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> - 2018-01-02 15:23 -0500
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-06 15:22 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-06 11:45 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> - 2018-01-06 18:50 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-06 19:38 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-06 19:38 +0000
                Re: Wanker Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson" LOL), the Sociopathic Attention Whore The Peeler <finishingoff@TheRevd.invalid> - 2018-01-06 21:31 +0100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-06 13:31 -0700
                Re: lowbrowman, Birdbrain's senile whore! Peeler <sociopath's@nightmare.invalid> - 2018-01-06 22:39 +0100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-08 14:05 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-02 13:27 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-02 13:18 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2018-01-02 22:27 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> - 2018-01-02 20:07 -0500
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2018-01-03 10:26 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-03 12:11 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-03 19:31 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars soup <cheesesoupnews@hotmail.com> - 2018-01-04 00:30 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-03 17:44 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-06 15:29 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-06 20:27 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-06 22:16 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-02 21:18 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> - 2018-01-02 20:06 -0500
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> - 2018-01-02 15:20 -0500
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-02 21:21 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2018-01-03 10:30 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2018-01-03 10:30 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> - 2018-01-03 09:38 -0500
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2018-01-03 11:48 -0700
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-06 15:13 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2018-01-06 19:01 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-06 19:37 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2018-01-06 23:05 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-08 14:07 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2018-01-08 14:30 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-08 16:08 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2018-01-06 20:34 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2018-01-07 17:30 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-08 15:45 +0000
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2018-01-08 16:55 +0000
                Re: Wanker Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson" LOL), the Sociopathic Attention Whore The Peeler <finishingoff@TheRevd.invalid> - 2018-01-08 19:29 +0100
                Re: Wing mirrors on cars soup <cheesesoupnews@hotmail.com> - 2018-01-07 11:27 +0000

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