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Re: iPhone 8

From Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>
Newsgroups aus.cars, aus.comms, aus.computers
Subject Re: iPhone 8
Date 2017-09-29 12:29 +1000
Message-ID <f35pgjFshhqU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (23 earlier) <oqiuch$4nj$1@dont-email.me> <f34fdjFj3phU2@mid.individual.net> <oqj2im$421$1@dont-email.me> <f35gcsFqn9jU1@mid.individual.net> <oqk2jl$h7r$5@dont-email.me>

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On 29/09/2017 10:04 AM, Noddy wrote:
> On 29/09/17 9:54 AM, felix wrote:
>>
>>> Unless he moves from the spot where he normally sits down to have a 
>>> cup of coffee while he's talking to me, and then it goes pear shaped 
>>> quite quickly.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> yeah, that's all I've been saying; that some phones 'sound' better 
>> than others, notwithstanding that other issues can affect their 
>> performance
> 
> Your comments were obvious. To those *without* a barrow to push and who 
> are looking for an argument at least :)
> 
> 
You definitely have a barrow to push. I was *agreeing with Felix* but 
adding that there were multiple causes of poor voice transmission with 
VOIP. I was playing around with VOIP in the mid 90s on Linux boxes with 
some Linux geeks. Skype tended to wipe out development efforts in the 
Geek scene from about the mid 90s but my friend in Benalla still runs 
his Linux VOIP server. That was in the very earliest days but some of 
the issues we encountered back then still remain, and Felix's experience 
proves it. It goes way beyond the quality of the microphone and speaker 
in the handset and is highly dependent on the redundancy in the packet 
switching network, not to mention the algorithms in the phone firmware.


-- 

Xeno

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iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-22 17:21 +0700
  Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-22 19:56 +0800
  Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-22 22:13 +1000
  Re: iPhone 8 Lindsay <ask.me.for.it@nunnya.business.com.au> - 2017-09-23 08:40 +1000
    Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-23 10:17 +1000
      Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-23 08:18 +0700
        Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-23 11:40 +1000
          Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-23 12:59 +1000
          Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-23 10:31 +0700
            Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-23 13:48 +1000
              Re: iPhone 8 keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-09-24 16:32 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-24 17:17 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-24 22:29 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-25 00:43 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-25 16:42 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-25 21:06 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-25 21:14 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-25 22:11 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Lindsay <ask.me.for.it@nunnya.business.com.au> - 2017-09-26 07:47 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-26 09:57 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-26 07:02 +0700
                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-26 08:14 +0800
                Re: iPhone 8 Lindsay <ask.me.for.it@nunnya.business.com.au> - 2017-09-26 11:11 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-26 12:20 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-26 13:39 +0800
                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-26 13:41 +0800
                Re: iPhone 8 "jonz@ nothere.com" <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 22:57 -0700
                Re: iPhone 8 FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-26 16:44 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 17:44 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 alvey <alvey@is.invalid> - 2017-09-26 19:14 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 20:42 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 "jonz@ nothere.com" <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 04:17 -0700
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 21:36 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 alvey <alvey@is.invalid> - 2017-09-27 06:33 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-27 08:05 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 alvey <alvey@is.invalid> - 2017-09-27 08:43 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-27 13:35 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-26 16:16 +0700
                Re: iPhone 8 FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-26 19:58 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-26 20:18 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-26 17:32 +0700
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 21:35 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 "jonz@ nothere.com" <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 04:25 -0700
                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-26 13:14 +0700
                Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-26 16:27 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-26 12:19 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-26 13:11 +0700
                Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-26 16:25 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-26 16:07 +0700
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 12:08 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-28 12:23 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 12:36 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-28 11:11 +0700
                Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-28 15:44 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 17:02 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-28 17:55 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 18:19 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-29 04:56 +0700
                Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-29 12:57 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-29 11:18 +0700
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-29 16:46 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-26 13:31 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 10:57 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 14:10 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-27 13:23 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-27 14:21 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 12:14 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-28 12:26 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 12:38 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 14:48 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-29 09:54 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-29 10:04 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-29 12:29 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-29 13:05 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-29 14:59 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-30 06:47 +0800
                Re: iPhone 8 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 15:14 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-29 12:10 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-29 13:00 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-29 00:37 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-29 11:49 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-29 12:53 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-26 12:26 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 14:02 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-09-26 23:05 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 23:43 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-27 08:36 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-27 14:21 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-26 22:43 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 23:09 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 21:42 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-27 14:06 +0800
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                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-10-01 10:58 +0800
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-10-01 23:46 +1100
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-10-02 15:12 +1100
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                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-10-02 15:13 +0800
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-10-03 10:48 +1100
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-10-03 18:43 +1100
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                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-10-03 23:19 +1100
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-10-04 00:37 +1100
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                Re: iPhone 8 Lindsay <ask.me.for.it@hornet.net.au> - 2017-10-02 23:47 +1100
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-10-03 00:09 +1100
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-10-02 14:50 +1100
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-10-02 21:19 +1100
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-10-02 22:44 +1100
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-30 10:03 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-30 15:37 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-30 18:46 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-30 22:13 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-30 22:59 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-10-01 03:27 +0800
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                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-10-02 14:37 +1100
                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-29 21:07 +0800
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-29 23:44 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-30 00:46 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-29 23:46 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-30 00:07 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-29 22:52 +0800
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                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-30 07:51 +0800
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-27 23:56 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-28 00:37 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-28 08:55 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 alvey <alvey@is.invalid> - 2017-09-28 16:33 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-28 10:19 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-28 12:57 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-28 13:39 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-27 18:38 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-27 17:20 +0800
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-27 21:36 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 alvey <alvey@is.invalid> - 2017-09-28 06:28 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-28 08:45 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-28 10:21 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-28 12:26 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 12:37 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-28 19:23 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-28 22:45 +0800
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-29 09:59 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-28 19:18 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-28 21:53 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-28 23:09 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-29 00:21 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-29 12:09 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-27 21:38 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-24 22:52 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-25 09:10 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-25 16:54 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-25 18:27 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-25 21:14 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-25 22:02 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 "jonz@ nothere.com" <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 01:03 -0700
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                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-25 06:14 +0700
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-25 16:34 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-25 16:55 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 alvey <alvey@is.invalid> - 2017-09-25 17:15 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-25 21:18 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-25 05:30 +0700
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                Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-24 22:24 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-24 22:31 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-24 22:34 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-24 22:38 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-25 00:44 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-25 12:25 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 alvey <alvey@is.invalid> - 2017-09-25 17:09 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-25 18:29 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-25 23:12 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 10:44 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 16:47 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-27 12:16 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-27 13:58 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-27 14:28 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-27 14:32 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-27 21:34 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-25 21:10 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-25 22:20 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-24 23:58 +0800
                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-25 05:58 +0700
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                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-25 07:33 +0800
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-25 12:05 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-25 12:01 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-25 16:40 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-25 16:57 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-25 21:19 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-25 07:28 +0800

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