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Re: iPhone 8

From Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>
Newsgroups aus.cars
Subject Re: iPhone 8
Date 2017-09-24 22:29 +1000
Message-ID <f2pmpbF1c6cU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 24/09/2017 7:38 PM, keithr0 wrote:
> On 9/24/2017 5:17 PM, Noddy wrote:
>> On 24/09/17 4:32 PM, keithr0 wrote:
>>
>>> There is a new Pixel coming out shortly
>>>
>>> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/the-pixel-2-xl-price-jumps-100-now-starts-at-849/ 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a Google Nexus 5 which I have had for the last 5 years, it was
>>> when Google phones were real value for money. When I bought it it had
>>> more features than the iPhone at half the price. Google has however
>>> gone up the price tree with the Pixels to almost iPhone prices. Still
>>> their phones have an advantage over other Android offering in that
>>> they get upgrades long before the other manufacturers,
>>
>> Define "long".
> 
> Google major updates usually within a couple of weeks, OEMS usually 2-6 
> months. Security updates, Google every month, OEMs who knows
> 
>> I think I had to wait three months to get Nougat on my HTC 10 after it
>> was released for Google made devices, and the differences it made to the
>> phone itself are *so* small it would be difficult to pick them.
>>
>> Hardly an "advantage" to owning a Google phone I would think.
> 
> Don't know, support for the Nexus 5 stopped at Android 6.
> 
> The HTC 10 release price was over $1000, the Nexus $420, now there is a 
> major advantage. The pixel phones though don't give that much of a price 
> advantage.
> 
>>> and they don't have all the junk that the OEMs load their offerings
>>> with. Android support though doesn't run as long as Apples.
>>
>> After-market support for android devices blows anything made by Apple
>> straight to Mars.

Not my experience. My Samsung Galaxy gave me issues from day one and 
Samsung support sucks big time. Mine resides in a cupboard here and has 
done for more than 4 years. It lasted about 1 year before I just gave up 
on it so I couldn't say how good the update regime was - and I don't 
care. I wouldn't even give it away. Who could, in all conscience, 
inflict such a piece of shit on some unsuspecting soul? Aside from 
Noddy, that is.
> 
> Support for the Nexus 5 ceased at Android 7 i.e. about 3 years after it 
> came out, my 7 year old iPad is still getting updates.
> 
My wife's iPad 3 is getting on to, or over, 5 years old now, mine's an 
iPad 4 and about 4 years old. All still updating and even upgrading to 
the latest iOS. Not that I was worried. I was thinking of updating my 
iPad to an iPad Pro and passing mine on to my wife. The processor in the 
4 is twice as powerful as the processor in her 3. Screen is much better 
as well.

Don't keep the iPhones beyond about 2 years, pass them on to family 
members instead. Simpler to get a new one on the plan every couple of 
years.

iOS updates are regular. I haven't bothered observing any patterns but 
every few weeks seems normal. From what I can tell, iOS upgrade 
continuation depends on the hardware capability of the previous older 
models. Looking at the iOS compatibility page, only as far back as iPad 
5th Gen can go to iOS 11. Our 3rd and 4th generation miss out. If the 
old iPad/iPhone hasn't a hardware feature the new iOS requires, that's 
the end of iOS upgrades. Updates still keep coming however. The Macs are 
no different in that regard. My Mac Pro has dropped off the upgrade 
radar once they moved to OSX 10.12. I'm stuck on OSX 10.11 from here on 
in and it's an early 2008 model. Updates no problem, just no OS upgrade.

Xeno

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iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-22 17:21 +0700
  Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-22 19:56 +0800
  Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-22 22:13 +1000
  Re: iPhone 8 Lindsay <ask.me.for.it@nunnya.business.com.au> - 2017-09-23 08:40 +1000
    Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-23 10:17 +1000
      Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-23 08:18 +0700
        Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-23 11:40 +1000
          Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-23 12:59 +1000
          Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-23 10:31 +0700
            Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-23 13:48 +1000
              Re: iPhone 8 keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-09-24 16:32 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-24 17:17 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-09-24 19:38 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-24 22:22 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-24 22:29 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-25 00:43 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-25 12:09 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-25 16:31 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-25 16:42 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-25 21:06 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-25 21:14 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-25 21:30 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-25 22:11 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Lindsay <ask.me.for.it@nunnya.business.com.au> - 2017-09-26 07:47 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-26 09:57 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-26 07:02 +0700
                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-26 08:14 +0800
                Re: iPhone 8 Lindsay <ask.me.for.it@nunnya.business.com.au> - 2017-09-26 11:11 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-26 12:20 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-26 13:39 +0800
                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-26 13:41 +0800
                Re: iPhone 8 "jonz@ nothere.com" <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 22:57 -0700
                Re: iPhone 8 FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-26 16:44 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 17:44 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 alvey <alvey@is.invalid> - 2017-09-26 19:14 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 20:42 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 "jonz@ nothere.com" <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 04:17 -0700
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 21:36 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 alvey <alvey@is.invalid> - 2017-09-27 06:33 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-27 08:05 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 alvey <alvey@is.invalid> - 2017-09-27 08:43 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-27 13:35 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-26 16:16 +0700
                Re: iPhone 8 FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-26 19:58 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-09-26 20:18 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-26 17:32 +0700
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 21:35 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 "jonz@ nothere.com" <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 04:25 -0700
                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-26 13:14 +0700
                Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-26 16:27 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-26 12:19 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-26 13:11 +0700
                Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-26 16:25 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-26 16:07 +0700
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 12:08 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-28 12:23 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 12:36 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-28 11:11 +0700
                Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-28 15:44 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 17:02 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-28 17:55 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 18:19 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-29 04:56 +0700
                Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-29 12:57 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-29 11:18 +0700
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-29 16:46 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-26 13:31 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-26 13:05 +0700
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 10:57 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Lindsay <ask.me.for.it@nunnya.business.com.au> - 2017-09-26 11:48 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-26 13:34 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 14:10 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-26 21:51 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-27 00:13 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-27 08:30 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 alvey <alvey@is.invalid> - 2017-09-27 09:18 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-27 13:23 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-27 14:21 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 12:14 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-28 12:26 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 12:38 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-28 12:48 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 14:48 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-28 15:45 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 16:19 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-28 17:21 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-28 19:20 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 19:24 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-28 20:31 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 23:28 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-28 23:45 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-29 00:31 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-29 00:57 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-29 09:54 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-29 10:04 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-29 12:29 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-29 13:01 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-29 13:05 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-29 14:59 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-30 06:47 +0800
                Re: iPhone 8 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 15:14 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-29 12:10 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-29 13:00 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-29 13:06 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-28 23:57 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-29 00:29 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-29 00:37 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-29 00:39 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 09:29 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-29 10:04 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-29 11:49 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-29 12:53 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 15:15 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-29 17:19 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-29 10:10 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 15:18 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-29 09:23 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2017-09-28 13:32 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Lindsay <ask.me.for.it@nunnya.business.com.au> - 2017-09-26 11:00 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-26 12:26 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 14:02 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-09-26 21:46 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 22:03 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-09-26 23:05 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 23:43 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-27 08:36 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-27 13:31 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-27 14:21 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-26 22:43 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 23:09 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-27 12:16 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-26 13:29 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 14:09 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-27 12:16 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-27 14:07 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-27 14:24 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-26 00:32 +0800
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 11:17 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-26 13:24 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 14:03 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-26 13:45 +0800
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 16:30 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-09-26 13:15 +0700
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 16:33 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-26 21:41 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 21:44 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-26 21:36 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 21:42 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-27 12:16 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-09-27 13:28 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-27 14:18 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-27 14:06 +0800
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-27 14:02 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-26 21:40 +0800
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-26 23:45 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-27 08:15 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Lindsay <ask.me.for.it@nunnya.business.com.au> - 2017-09-27 06:54 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-27 08:16 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 alvey <alvey@is.invalid> - 2017-09-27 09:02 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-27 13:33 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Lindsay <ask.me.for.it@nunnya.business.com.au> - 2017-09-27 14:04 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-09-27 07:21 +0800
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-27 11:59 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-27 13:12 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-28 10:12 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-28 12:34 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-28 12:34 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Daryl <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2017-09-30 14:14 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-30 13:26 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-09-30 21:48 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-09-30 22:31 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-30 22:59 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-10-01 00:58 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-10-01 01:02 +1000
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                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-10-01 01:39 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-09-30 22:53 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-10-01 01:04 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-10-01 01:21 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-10-01 01:32 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-10-01 01:41 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-10-01 02:33 +0800
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-10-01 10:13 +1100
                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-10-01 17:40 +0800
                Re: iPhone 8 alvey <alvey@is.invalid> - 2017-10-02 07:32 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-10-02 10:10 +1100
                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-10-02 08:13 +0800
                Re: iPhone 8 alvey <alvey@is.invalid> - 2017-10-02 10:36 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-10-02 09:31 +0800
                Re: iPhone 8 Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-10-02 15:05 +1100
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-10-02 12:44 +1100
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-10-02 13:36 +1100
                Re: iPhone 8 felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-10-02 15:34 +1100
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-10-02 21:09 +1100
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-10-02 23:19 +1100
                Re: iPhone 8 alvey <alvey@is.invalid> - 2017-10-03 08:36 +1000
                Re: iPhone 8 Noddy <me@home.com> - 2017-10-03 10:28 +1100
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                Re: iPhone 8 "jonz@ nothere.com" <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2017-10-03 23:54 -0700
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