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Re: Just one!

From Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.mobile.android, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Just one!
Date 2020-11-23 23:08 +0000
Organization Some absurd concept
Message-ID <eli$2011231749@qaz.wtf> (permalink)
References <rph1eq$q76$1@dont-email.me> <9fe41bd458.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM> <231120201723564762%nospam@nospam.invalid>

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In comp.mobile.android, nospam  <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
>> A large part of the design of Apple's processors is done by ARM Ltd.
> completely false. 
> 
> apple designs their own processors. full stop.

ARM licenses "IP cores" for companies to assemble together into systems
on a chip (SoC). The M1 is widely described as being "Apple designed"
and alsp "ARM". The natural reading of that is Apple took ARM's chip
Lego and put it together. David's comment would appear to be about the
ARM "chip Lego" not being Apple designed.

You will have some definitions and citations for that "full stop" to
share with us? 

Apple has always been a hardware company first, so it is not
unreasonable to imagine that they have designed a processor "full
stop", but throwing statements out without either giving context or
the slightest backup citation is not a way to convince anyone of
anything. Apple, as I recall, was one of the original investors in ARM
Holdings. It's plausable that Apple's work helped make ARM and ARM is
now helping make the M1. Plausible, not definite.

I'd like more info before I believe your accounting of things.

Elijah
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"design" is a multifaceted word

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Just one! Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-23 11:10 -0800
  Re: Just one! David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2020-11-23 21:53 +0000
    Re: Just one! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-23 17:23 -0500
      Re: Just one! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-11-23 23:54 +0100
        Re: Just one! Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-23 14:58 -0800
        Re: Just one! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-23 19:14 -0500
          Re: Just one! Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2020-11-24 07:35 +0100
            Re: Just one! Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-23 23:08 -0800
              Re: Just one! "Thomas E." <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2020-11-24 10:41 -0800
                Re: Just one! Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-24 11:24 -0800
          Re: Just one! Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2020-11-24 07:45 +0100
            Re: Just one! Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-23 23:10 -0800
              Re: Just one! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-11-24 10:23 +0100
                Re: Just one! Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-24 02:08 -0800
                Re: Just one! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-11-24 19:41 +0100
                Re: Just one! Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-24 11:21 -0800
                Re: Just one! Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2020-11-24 14:51 -0600
                Re: Just one! Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-24 13:36 -0800
                Re: Just one! Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2020-11-24 23:23 +0100
                Re: Just one! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-11-24 22:05 +0100
                Re: Just one! Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-24 13:36 -0800
                Re: Just one! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-11-24 23:08 +0100
                Re: Just one! Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-24 16:14 -0800
                Re: Just one! Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2020-11-25 11:31 +0100
      Re: Just one! Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2020-11-23 23:08 +0000
        Re: Just one! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-23 19:28 -0500
          Re: Just one!  Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-11-24 00:51 +0000
          Re: Just one! Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2020-11-24 02:08 +0000
            Re: Just one! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-23 21:41 -0500
              Re: Just one! Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2020-11-24 18:30 +0000
          Re: Just one! "Thomas E." <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2020-11-24 05:10 -0800
            Re: Just one! Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-24 11:14 -0800
              Re: Just one! "Thomas E." <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2020-11-25 08:27 -0800
        Re: Just one!  Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-11-24 00:29 +0000
          Re: Just one! Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-23 17:07 -0800
        Re: Just one! Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-11-25 16:30 +0000
          Re: Just one! Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2020-11-25 19:07 +0000
            Re: Just one! Arlen   Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2020-11-25 21:25 +0000
              Re: Just one! Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-25 13:49 -0800
      Re: Just one! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2020-11-23 19:43 -0500
      Re: Just one! Joerg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.ch> - 2020-11-24 07:30 +0100
        Re: Just one! Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-23 23:07 -0800
        Re: Just one! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2020-11-24 06:36 -0500
          Re: Just one! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-11-24 22:12 +0100
            Re: Just one! Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-24 13:37 -0800
              Re: Just one! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2020-11-24 23:07 +0100
                Re: Just one! Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-24 16:13 -0800
              Re: Just one! Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2020-11-25 18:48 +0000
            Re: Just one! Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-24 18:49 -0800
    Re: Just one! Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2020-11-23 14:53 -0800
  Re: Just one! Аlаn Ваkеr <notonyourliff@no.no.no> - 2020-11-23 23:18 -0800

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