Re: VHS Tape Collectors

From	"Blue Heeler" <woof@barque.org>
Newsgroups	aus.tv, aus.computers
Subject	Re: VHS Tape Collectors
Date	2017-03-25 03:56 +0000
Organization	barque.org
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keithr0 wrote:

> On 3/25/2017 12:47 PM, Blue Heeler wrote:
> > keithr0 wrote:
> > 
> > > On 3/25/2017 12:55 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> >>>Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> wrote:
> > > > > On 23/03/2017 10:39 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> >>>>>Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> wrote:
> > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > The most primitive computer I programmed had a card
> > > > > > > reader.  You would use a pencil to mark the boxes and the
> > > > > > > card reader would then load the program and run it.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I thought it was called something like the System 2000
> > > > > > > but I could be wrong.
> > > > > > 
> >>>>> What was the programming language?
> > > > > > 
> >>>>> If BASIC, it may have been a HP (Hewlett Packard) 2000 Time
> Share
> > > > > > System. Those systems often had an optical marked-card
> > > > > > reader, so users - often students - could write their
> > > > > > programs offline, needing only a pencil. It was one of the
> > > > > > genarations of HP computers I supported (working for HP).
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm pretty sure it was BASIC. There was a terminal that looked
> > > > > 70's era.  Black keyboard integrated in with the CRT very
> > > > > basic looking thing.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes, we would all fill our cards in to program it and then
> > > > > feed them in to program it. Pretty sure you could do a BASIC
> > > > > listing once loaded.
> > > > > 
> > > > > But, it's from very distant memory and I really can't recall
> > > > > much more about it.
> > > > 
> >>> The system was probably similar to this one.
> > > > 
> > > > <http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=411>
> > > > 
> >>> This is the second generation version, because it has two 2100A/S
> > > > computers, instead of 2116 (2114?) ones, and a 7905 moving-head
> > > > disc (no, not disk), instead of earlier head-per track ones. On
> > > > the bottom-right the papertape reader and on the top-left a
> > > > (7970B) reel-to-reel tape drive.
> > > > 
> >>> The card-reader probably looked like this:
> > > > 
> > > > <http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=277>
> > > > 
> >>> The terminal probably was one of these ones:
> > > > 
> > > > <http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=94>
> > > > 
> >>> 'My' (Delta werken) system looked like the left-cabinet of the
> > > > 2000F Time Share System, with the addition of the papertape
> > > > reader.  It's computer probably was a newer one, of the 21MX
> > > > series:
> > > > 
> > > > <http://hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=108>
> > > > 
> >>> Thanks for letting me have another look in the HP Computer Museum!
> > > > 
> > > ICL also made optical mark readers (among others)
> > 
> > As did NCR
> > 
> The only ones that I had experience of were on an ICL machine that
> ABS used for a mid 1970s census, they could have been made by anybody
> but had ICL on the covers. IBM made them too. Even large computer
> manufacturers buy in stuff and put their own name on it.

Given NCR's background in mechanical and electro/mechanical cash
registers, adding machines and accounting machines, you will understand
that they had immense expertise to bring to any device needing a
mechanism.

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VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-02-28 21:58 +0000
  Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-01 06:54 +0800
    Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-01 11:41 +1100
      Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-04 17:33 +1100
        Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-06 10:56 +1100
          Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-06 16:35 +1100
  Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-01 11:45 +1100
    Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-01 22:11 +0000
      Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-02 09:28 +1100
        Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-04 17:36 +1100
    Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-04 17:34 +1100
      Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-06 15:48 +1100
        Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-06 16:30 +1100
          Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-06 16:35 +1100
            Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-06 16:37 +1100
          Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-06 23:32 +1100
            Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-07 05:47 +1100
              Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-07 18:38 +1100
        Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-06 16:32 +1100
      Re: VHS Tape Collectors jonz <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 06:54 -0800
    Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-05 15:44 +1100
      Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-05 15:55 +1100
      Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-06 22:01 +0000
        Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-11 01:40 +0000
          Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-11 17:13 +1100
            Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-11 06:29 +0000
              Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-12 01:18 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-11 22:07 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-12 09:52 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-19 13:18 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-19 22:08 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-20 10:31 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2017-03-20 01:34 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-20 13:27 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2017-03-20 07:30 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-20 17:13 +0800
              Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-12 07:41 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-12 09:47 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-12 13:37 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-12 22:11 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-13 19:47 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-13 22:16 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-14 14:24 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-14 21:54 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-15 08:45 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-16 01:27 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-16 19:52 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-17 15:08 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-17 12:41 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-19 13:42 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-19 13:36 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-19 15:04 -0600
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-20 13:42 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-20 11:03 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-20 14:18 -0600
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-20 22:15 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2017-03-21 10:09 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-21 08:51 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2017-03-21 13:34 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-21 11:47 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-22 22:21 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-21 06:47 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-21 15:24 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-21 14:10 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-21 10:17 -0600
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-22 09:18 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-22 13:31 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-22 10:04 -0600
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-23 06:30 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-03-22 19:28 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-22 21:29 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-03-22 20:41 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-24 12:23 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-25 10:05 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-03-22 20:22 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-03-23 10:26 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-23 12:28 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-03-23 16:20 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-23 22:45 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-03-23 14:39 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-24 22:20 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-03-24 14:55 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-25 07:04 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-03-26 20:14 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-04-04 17:43 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-04-05 07:44 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-04-05 08:07 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-04-05 14:26 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-04-05 14:05 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-04-05 19:34 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-04-05 21:20 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-04-05 21:19 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-03-25 12:26 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors "Blue Heeler" <woof@barque.org> - 2017-03-25 02:47 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-03-25 13:47 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors "Blue Heeler" <woof@barque.org> - 2017-03-25 03:56 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-03-25 15:36 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-03-22 20:09 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-23 12:38 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-03-23 14:34 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-24 06:49 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-21 11:42 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-21 10:24 -0600
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-21 18:50 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-21 10:31 -0600
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-22 07:53 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-20 14:28 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-20 14:12 -0600
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-19 13:34 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-16 01:28 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-18 00:04 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-18 12:02 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-18 01:48 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-18 14:30 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-18 21:55 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-19 12:57 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-19 21:45 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-19 13:28 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors bruce56@topmail.co.nz - 2017-03-13 03:34 -0700
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-19 13:21 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-19 21:52 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-19 13:20 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-19 21:51 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-20 10:28 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2017-03-20 01:41 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-20 12:05 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-20 16:42 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-20 17:11 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-20 21:35 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-21 18:41 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-13 08:20 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-12 13:33 +1100
  Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-04 17:32 +1100
    Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-06 10:54 +1100
      Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-06 16:33 +1100
    Re: VHS Tape Collectors hector <bobble@there.com> - 2017-03-07 04:18 +1100
      Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-07 07:41 +1100
        Re: VHS Tape Collectors hector <bobble@there.com> - 2017-03-07 13:34 +1100
          Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-07 14:05 +1100
        Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-07 18:43 +1100
          Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-08 07:37 +1100
            Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-07 22:07 +0000
              Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-08 11:19 +1100
              Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-08 09:10 +0800
              Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-08 15:23 +1100
            Re: VHS Tape Collectors hector <bobble@there.com> - 2017-03-08 23:48 +1100
              Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-09 07:38 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors hector <bobble@there.com> - 2017-03-09 17:35 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-13 16:29 +1100
        Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-08 18:00 +1100
          Re: VHS Tape Collectors hector <bobble@there.com> - 2017-03-08 23:50 +1100
            Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-09 07:33 +1100
              Re: VHS Tape Collectors hector <bobble@there.com> - 2017-03-09 17:25 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-12 07:44 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors hector <bobble@there.com> - 2017-03-12 12:48 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-13 08:25 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-13 16:37 +1100

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