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| From | keithr0 <user@account.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | aus.tv, aus.computers |
| Subject | Re: VHS Tape Collectors |
| Date | 2017-03-23 16:20 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <ejh7osF121bU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (22 earlier) <ejbo7hFssfiU1@mid.individual.net> <58d0c3ce$0$11089$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <oarjgt$i1c$1@dont-email.me> <ejeuebFhljcU1@mid.individual.net> <58d34edc$0$11116$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On 3/23/2017 2:28 PM, Clocky wrote:
> On 22/03/2017 5:28 PM, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 3/22/2017 2:17 AM, BruceS wrote:
>>> On 03/21/2017 12:10 AM, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 21/03/2017 12:24 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, 21 Mar 2017 9:47 AM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>> On 21/03/2017 4:18 AM, BruceS wrote:
>>>>>>> On 03/19/2017 09:03 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 20/03/2017 10:42 AM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> not really, just put a card in to give you ide ports, or use an
>>>>>>>>> IDE to
>>>>>>>>> SATA adapter. or you could use a docking station
>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/kwhx75u
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do have an adapter, so I can plug in one EIDE drive at a time, and
>>>>>>> transfer whatever seems to be of value to the newer machine's
>>>>>>> drive, or
>>>>>>> to a separate backup. That's probably what I'll do, though I also
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> a crossover cable, so with the right setup I could transfer between
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> machines. I don't think any of this is worth the cost and
>>>>>>> trouble of
>>>>>>> getting a new controller card.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a few USB external drives here and simply plug in the drive to
>>>>>> whatever interface matches. Not an elegant solution, but it works.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have three external boxes USB permanently connected, two SATA and
>>>>> one
>>>>> IDE. very handy. just pop whatever drive you want to use in
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here again the storage limits are laughable in today's terms.
>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>> biggest EIDE drive I have is 80GB,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have 120Gb, 80Gb, 40Gb, and even a 10GB. I also have a 25mb HD
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> still works!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How is it worth running tiny hard drives when you can put it all
>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>>> flash drive for little cost, no moving parts, and easy connection to
>>>>>>> any modern machine?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think he means he's running them but that they still work.
>>>>>
>>>>> yes
>>>
>>> Even so, to me that's just clutter. I'm pretty bad about keeping old
>>> junk, being a pack rat, but I'm trying to improve. I once helped a
>>> friend whose church group was helping an old church member replace his
>>> water heater. The old guy lived in a trailer, and the clutter in it
>>> was unbelievable. From the front door, there was a path to the kitchen
>>> sink; the rest of that room was full of piles of things like
>>> newspapers, stacked several feet high. Some other rooms were similarly
>>> full, with little actual living space. I don't want to end up like
>>> that guy, especially as my house is somewhat larger, so the amount of
>>> clutter it could hold would be enormous. Every once in a while, I go
>>> through, trying to get rid of junk. Tiny drives definitely fit that
>>> description for me, as did the tapes, floppies, etc. I think even the
>>> 200GB hard drive will be counted as clutter during this round of
>>> cleanup.
>>>
>>>>>> I have a collection of drives that are sometimes used to
>>>>>> resurrect/test or repair vintage stuff but they don't see regular use
>>>>>> nor do they have anything that's important on them (or it's been
>>>>>> backed up elsewhere).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Flash drives fail too btw as flash memory has limited write/erase
>>>>>> cycles (albeit it 10's of thousands+). Whilst that might not affect
>>>>>> drives used for backups (but can if you run some operating systems
>>>>>> from one)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Having said that, I've had only one fail that was used for data
>>>>>> transfer.
>>>
>>> I hadn't heard that flash had failures within any conceivable usage
>>> level. I'll have to look into that, as my main computer (the one I'm
>>> on now) uses an SSD for the OS. It has a 1TB drive, but drunken me
>>> used fdisk, without even having written down the pre-edit numbers, much
>>> less doing a backup first. I've tried a couple of tools to recover it,
>>> but without success. I can't even recall just what's on it that I care
>>> about, though I think there are a bunch of pictures. The pack rat side
>>> of me hates the idea of repartitioning it and losing all that. So I
>>> keep using the SSD instead.
>>>
>>>>>>>> I have two or three 40mb drives that still work. One MFM/RLL drive
>>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>>> portable that still works too but each time I fire it up I'm
>>>>>>>> afraid it
>>>>>>>> will be it's last. Those old things don't fill you with much
>>>>>>>> confidence
>>>>>>>> as they chug away.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The dodgiest drive still in regular use is in an old Compaq Armada
>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>> I use with my EPROMmer and for diagnostics on older vehicles.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's drive developed bad sectors 10+ years ago and I simply
>>>>>>>> partitioned
>>>>>>>> them out as a temporary measure and it's remained that way since.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's another point against the old, small-capacity drives. I
>>>>>>> was a
>>>>>>> bit relieved that all my old drives even run. Once I get the good
>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>> off them, I'll probably clear them and either give or throw them
>>>>>>> away.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This particular one sees regular use and should be backed up... one
>>>>>> day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The laptop has a primitive USB port so the entire contents of the HDD
>>>>>> could be put on a 2GB USB stick even so there is no excuse.
>>>
>>> Given my own record for doing backups, I'm not one to criticize, but I
>>> strongly suggest you do that backup before the failure, rather than
>>> after.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> while I have a 256GB thumb drive.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I also still have a few 3.5" floppies ("stiffies")
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> none of that dirty talk here, thank you! lol.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> , which I could read
>>>>>>>>>> on the old machine, and then transfer to the new if there's any
>>>>>>>>>> value
>>>>>>>>>> to it. That's a big "if".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I still have a 3.5 floppy drive in the current machine. even
>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>> 5.25" drive in one PC
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a separate machine for that which also has a 3.5" and 5.25"
>>>>>>>> floppy. I've used it to recover and write floppies for other 8 bit
>>>>>>>> computers (like a TRS-80 model 1 for instance).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You wouldn't happen to have a paper tape reader as well, would you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No I don't and I don't know anyone who has one.
>>>>>> Do you have some paper tapes and what were they from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it was humour considering all the old stuff you (we) have
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I was wondering, but I was asked in all seriousness once.
>>>
>>> Yes, that was just humor. We had one for an old mainframe I worked on,
>>> along with the card readers. That machine also had hard drives the
>>> size of washing machines. I think they held something like 5MB each.
>>> We used those big reel-to-reel tape drives for backup, and stored the
>>> tapes in a highly secure vault, with fire protection, etc. At one
>>> point I realized how long it had been since they'd changed the
>>> combination on the vault, and that most of the people who'd known it
>>> were no longer employees.
>>
>> The first program that I ever wrote had to be punched up on paper tape
>> on an ASR-33 teletype. Then the paper tape with the compiler had to be
>> loaded on to the computer followed by the source code tape from the
>> previous step. The computer then punched a tape with the compiled
>> program. Then the run time tape was loaded, followed by the compiled
>> tape. Then the program would run.
>>
>> Editing a paper tape was a bastard of a job, using punch card seemed a
>> real step forward.
>>
>>
>
>
> The most primitive computer I programmed had a card reader. You would
> use a pencil to mark the boxes and the card reader would then load the
> program and run it.
>
> I thought it was called something like the System 2000 but I could be
> wrong.
>
>
That was called an optical mark reader. They were popular back in the
mid 70s, but were not terribly reliable if the mark was not good enough.
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