Re: VHS Tape Collectors

From	felix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
Newsgroups	aus.tv
Subject	Re: VHS Tape Collectors
Date	2017-03-19 13:36 +1100
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On Thursday, 16 Mar 2017 10:52 PM, Clocky wrote:
> On 15/03/2017 10:27 PM, Trevor wrote:
>> On 15/03/2017 11:45 AM, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 15/03/2017 5:54 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>> Trevor <trevor@home.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 14/03/2017 9:16 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>>> That said, I wouldn't go to the trouble of
>>>>>> transferring them all to HDD
>>>>>
>>>>> Me either, but only because *very few* are worth the effort involved.
>>>>>
>>>>>> (or HDDs, because they have been known to be much less reliable
>>>>>> than tapes), so maybe it's a moot point anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> No. With digital you can have as many back-ups as needed, and 
>>>>> transfer
>>>>> them as often as necessary without further degradation. Something you
>>>>> simply cannot do with any analog media.
>>>>
>>>> Having to make backups because the medium itself (Hard Disks) is
>>>> less reliable is half of the effort. Especially because some HDD
>>>> models of old have been known to "stick" and fail to spin up after
>>>> being left unused for a long time, so I'd have to keep checking
>>>> them as well.
>>>
>>> Not only that, but formats, interfaces, operating systems and codecs or
>>> become obsolete change which can complicate matters.
>>
>> Right, and Beta/VHS players will never become obsolete of course. Oh
>> wait, they already are!
>>
> How long did that take? The medium remains intact in any event, much 
> more reliably then digital formats.
>
>>
>>>
>>> Some of my old Backup DVD's and CD's are unreadable after a few years
>>> kept in temperature stable dry conditions whilst I have home recorded
>>> audio and video cassettes that are 30+ years old kept in less than 
>>> ideal
>>> storage that still work perfectly.
>>
>> I still have some Phillips format video tapes. Try finding a player for
>> those now! Also some Umatic tapes. You can find players for those, but
>> it would be hard to justify the cost!
>>
>
> Try finding a working Zip disk reader,

I have several; read and write

> floptical or or 2.88mb floppy disk drive.
>
>> But one thing you should remember is that audio and video data files are
>> often recoverable where program files would not be. One bit error on a
>> program and it's toast.
>
> That's not so, I've recovered data damaged data cassettes and disk 
> drives and even repaired the recovered data using disk sector editors 
> and hex editors and specialised disk recovery tools. You just have to 
> know what you are doing. Recovering data from a DVD is no different to 
> recovering video or audio.
>
>  Not so with AV files if you know how to read
>> them. It CAN be done, I've done it many times with only minor glitches
>> to the audio or video stream from "faulty" DVD's.
>
> Hasn't everyone?
>
>
>  I get more glitches
>> from nearly every video tape!
>>
>
> You need better equipment.
>
>>>
>>> I think the biggest risk to those are the players chewing up the tapes.
>>
>> Dead right. Belts are the first to decay, and tapes get chewed. Then you
>> can't splice the video tape either because the rotating heads get
>> destroyed by the join. New heads are astronomical replacement cost, if
>> you can even find them any more.
>>
>
> You're exaggerating and a direct drive VHS player is an obvious solution.
>


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VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-02-28 21:58 +0000
  Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-01 06:54 +0800
    Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-01 11:41 +1100
      Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-04 17:33 +1100
        Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-06 10:56 +1100
          Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-06 16:35 +1100
  Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-01 11:45 +1100
    Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-01 22:11 +0000
      Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-02 09:28 +1100
        Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-04 17:36 +1100
    Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-04 17:34 +1100
      Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-06 15:48 +1100
        Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-06 16:30 +1100
          Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-06 16:35 +1100
            Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-06 16:37 +1100
          Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-06 23:32 +1100
            Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-07 05:47 +1100
              Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-07 18:38 +1100
        Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-06 16:32 +1100
      Re: VHS Tape Collectors jonz <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2017-03-06 06:54 -0800
    Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-05 15:44 +1100
      Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-05 15:55 +1100
      Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-06 22:01 +0000
        Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-11 01:40 +0000
          Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-11 17:13 +1100
            Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-11 06:29 +0000
              Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-12 01:18 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-11 22:07 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-12 09:52 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-19 13:18 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-19 22:08 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-20 10:31 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2017-03-20 01:34 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-20 13:27 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2017-03-20 07:30 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-20 17:13 +0800
              Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-12 07:41 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-12 09:47 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-12 13:37 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-12 22:11 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-13 19:47 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-13 22:16 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-14 14:24 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-14 21:54 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-15 08:45 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-16 01:27 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-16 19:52 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-17 15:08 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-17 12:41 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-19 13:42 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-19 13:36 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-19 15:04 -0600
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-20 13:42 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-20 11:03 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-20 14:18 -0600
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-20 22:15 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2017-03-21 10:09 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-21 08:51 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Lucifer Morningstar <Barry@saymyname.com> - 2017-03-21 13:34 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-21 11:47 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-22 22:21 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-21 06:47 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-21 15:24 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-21 14:10 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-21 10:17 -0600
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-22 09:18 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-22 13:31 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-22 10:04 -0600
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-23 06:30 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-03-22 19:28 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-22 21:29 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-03-22 20:41 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-24 12:23 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-25 10:05 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-03-22 20:22 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-03-23 10:26 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-23 12:28 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-03-23 16:20 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-23 22:45 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-03-23 14:39 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-24 22:20 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-03-24 14:55 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-25 07:04 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-03-26 20:14 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-04-04 17:43 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-04-05 07:44 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-04-05 08:07 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-04-05 14:26 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-04-05 14:05 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-04-05 19:34 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-04-05 21:20 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-04-05 21:19 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-03-25 12:26 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors "Blue Heeler" <woof@barque.org> - 2017-03-25 02:47 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-03-25 13:47 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors "Blue Heeler" <woof@barque.org> - 2017-03-25 03:56 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2017-03-25 15:36 +1000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-03-22 20:09 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-23 12:38 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2017-03-23 14:34 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-24 06:49 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-21 11:42 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-21 10:24 -0600
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-21 18:50 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-21 10:31 -0600
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-22 07:53 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-20 14:28 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-20 14:12 -0600
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-19 13:34 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-16 01:28 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-18 00:04 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-18 12:02 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-18 01:48 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-18 14:30 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-18 21:55 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-19 12:57 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-19 21:45 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-19 13:28 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors bruce56@topmail.co.nz - 2017-03-13 03:34 -0700
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-19 13:21 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-19 21:52 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-19 13:20 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-19 21:51 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-20 10:28 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2017-03-20 01:41 +0000
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-20 12:05 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-20 16:42 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-20 17:11 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-20 21:35 +0800
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-21 18:41 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-13 08:20 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-12 13:33 +1100
  Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-04 17:32 +1100
    Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-06 10:54 +1100
      Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-06 16:33 +1100
    Re: VHS Tape Collectors hector <bobble@there.com> - 2017-03-07 04:18 +1100
      Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-07 07:41 +1100
        Re: VHS Tape Collectors hector <bobble@there.com> - 2017-03-07 13:34 +1100
          Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-07 14:05 +1100
        Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-07 18:43 +1100
          Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-08 07:37 +1100
            Re: VHS Tape Collectors not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-03-07 22:07 +0000
              Re: VHS Tape Collectors Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2017-03-08 11:19 +1100
              Re: VHS Tape Collectors Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2017-03-08 09:10 +0800
              Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-08 15:23 +1100
            Re: VHS Tape Collectors hector <bobble@there.com> - 2017-03-08 23:48 +1100
              Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-09 07:38 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors hector <bobble@there.com> - 2017-03-09 17:35 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-13 16:29 +1100
        Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-08 18:00 +1100
          Re: VHS Tape Collectors hector <bobble@there.com> - 2017-03-08 23:50 +1100
            Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-09 07:33 +1100
              Re: VHS Tape Collectors hector <bobble@there.com> - 2017-03-09 17:25 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-12 07:44 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors hector <bobble@there.com> - 2017-03-12 12:48 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-03-13 08:25 +1100
                Re: VHS Tape Collectors Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2017-03-13 16:37 +1100

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