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Re: Off Topic-Re: GNOME bans Manjaro Core Team Member for uttering "Lunduke"

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Subject	Re: Off Topic-Re: GNOME bans Manjaro Core Team Member for uttering "Lunduke"
Date	2024-07-31 11:09 +0200
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On Wed, 31 Jul 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 30/07/2024 21:23, % wrote:
>> chrisv wrote:
>>> Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Find a better group for your discussion of transgender expression and
>>>> the hateful rhetoric of the
>>> 
>>> ... trans activists.
>>> 
>> no one gets to tell me what group i'll do what in
>
> That's the beauty of the killfile. No one tells me who I have to listen to 
> either.

Touché! I find it enormously tedious with the people who complain about 
ascii only, formating, top posting, bottom posting, telling people to only 
talk x, y and z and so on, and have as a policy to ignore or block those 
people.

They can, if they so like, block me as well if it hurts their 
sensibilities so much that I don't write the way they would like me to 
write.

> Which raises an interesting pint about having tow sets of people on a given 
> usenet group, neither of whom is aware of the existence of the other, due to 
> mutual killfiling

Yes! It is fascinating how a group can split into not only two, but many 
parallell universes with their own sub cultures, ideologies and norms. But 
not only usenet, but perhaps the world as well? We bring the assumption 
that we should only have to read or interact with people like ourselves 
into the real world, and also experience fractured or split communities, 
work places etc. although granted, not as cleanly divided as with 
killfiles on usenet.

> Having said that, it is relevant to Linux if political activists are 
> excluding people from coding because of their political views. There is a 
> definite tendency of the Left to turn what is a belief or an opinion into 
> unimpeachable fact. And use it much in the way a 'whites only' employment 
> policy used to work to exclude those who see things differently.

This is an established technique to acquire political power. Identity 
politics is based on the idea of splitting, and of one identity then 
"winning" capturing the power. But once that has happened, that identity 
might split, and you have a new battle until a leader emerges who has 
managed to cancel the competing identities, and then another schism, until 
the nr of members of the identity becomes too small to be able to wield 
political power.

> As I said. metaphysics is what you assume to be true in order to make sense 
> of the world. And the only justification for those assumptions is if they 
> *work.*

Here I would have to disagree. For me, metaphysics is either a 
philosophical discipline or a priori speculation upon questions 
that are unanswerable to scientific observation, analysis, or experiment.

By the very nature of them being unanswerable, the connection between them 
and the world is nil. We have hypothesis and experiment that tells us 
there is an external world which such certainty, that the burden of proof 
is on the one who does not believe in the external world, to disprove the 
external world, and no one has so far succeeded at that.

Metaphysics, at least on usenet, tends to devolve into solipsism or 
aggressive skepticism, which is a dead end.

> The Left's whole assumption that reality is malleable - if not created -  by 
> the power of imagination, is simple superstitious magick.

Yes, without truth, everyone is right and debate, progress and science 
become impossible. It is to me amazing that the left and the gender-maffia 
do not realize this.

I guess it is a proof that capitalism has achieved such enormous wealth in 
the west, that unthinking people have forgotten how that was created, and 
thus endorse a world without values or truth, without realizing the long 
term damage it would make to the world.

> You are what you are, and coming to terms with it is called 'growing up' and 
> rubbing other peoples noses in it is just childish.

This is the truth! Gender-confused people should see a good psychologist 
and get medication, not mutilation.

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Re: GNOME bans Manjaro Core Team Member for uttering "Lunduke" scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2024-07-29 20:04 +0000
  Re: GNOME bans Manjaro Core Team Member for uttering "Lunduke" Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-07-29 16:44 -0400
    Re: GNOME bans Manjaro Core Team Member for uttering "Lunduke" scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2024-07-30 18:47 +0000
      Off Topic-Re: GNOME bans Manjaro Core Team Member for uttering "Lunduke" Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> - 2024-07-30 12:41 -0700
        Re: Off Topic-Re: GNOME bans Manjaro Core Team Member for uttering "Lunduke" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-07-30 15:18 -0500
          Re: Off Topic-Re: GNOME bans Manjaro Core Team Member for uttering "Lunduke" % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-07-30 13:23 -0700
            Re: Off Topic-Re: GNOME bans Manjaro Core Team Member for uttering "Lunduke" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-31 09:26 +0100
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