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Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.ipad, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs
Date 2016-10-14 12:16 +1100
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Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>>  It's the choice between dumb and dumber.

>> Neither are dumb. Obscene, sure.

> They're both dumb.

Neither are dumb. Obscene, sure.

> It's actually hard to say who is dumber though.

> Trump opines he can touch women's genitalia because he's a star,

Nope, because he knows they wont do anything about it.

> while Hiliary doesn't reproach Madeline who decrees you must vote
> for Hiliary (or go to Hell) simply because Hiliary has female genitalia.

That's not dumb, just stupid.

> Dumb, and dumber they are.

Neither are dumb. Obscene, sure.

>>> More accurately, it's the choice between not
>>> a politician and the consummate politician.

>> She aint that consummate, got fuck all done.

> She is a creation of the party machine;

Nope.

> he is a creation of himself.

Nope.

> Both are horrid choices, each for
> completely different reasons.

Yours for Hitlary makes no sense.

>>> One has wacky ideas, the other has none.

>> She does have a few, stupid ones.

> Heh heh ... that she has a few stupid ideas is true, as does he.

All his ideas are completely stupid. Have fun listing even one that isnt.

> However, she is more of a creation of the machine,

Nope, she picked that machine because she is actually
stupid enough to by the shit that machine is into.

> so, we can "presume" she will follow the mantra,

It's a lot more than just a mantra.

> whereas he is not a creation of the machine,

No machine would ever be that fucked.

> so who knows what he will do.

Even he doesn't.

> The net is that they're both disasters waiting to happen.

Nope, because the prez is essentially irrelevant.

> Luckily, I have faith in the system of checks and balances,
> such that neither will be able to get anything done

That's not what checks and balances are about.

> (which is probably a good thing in this situation),
> if the Congress is of a different makeup.

That remains to be seen with Hitlary.

>>> It's not going to be easy this time around, but I put
>>> my faith in the American system, where the separation
>>> of powers helps us overcome a lot of bad presidents.

>> Its rather more about the fact that no prez has much power at all.

>> They are in fact mostly irrelevant.

> I think it's not *that* simple, but we do have separation
> of powers. Checks and balances, and all that.

In practice there is fuck all the prez can
actually do, just pardon some prats etc.

> So what's more important to me is the split of dems versus repubs, and
> how that split either reinforces whichever president we end up with,

In practice is isnt about reinforcement, its about
whether Congress wants something done or not.

> or if the makeup of Congress is of the opposite party.

> Being in California, my vote really doesn't matter either way, so, it's
> not a big issue with me as I have almost zero control of the outcome.

That is just as true of every single voter and it isnt
almost either, it is zero control of the outcome.

>>> IMHO, it doesn't matter whom I vote for, since I'm in California, and in
>>> my state, the electoral vote count is not only huge, but it all goes to 
>>> one
>>> person, which nobody on this planet has any doubt whom that will be.

>> Why do you use the word whom instead of who ?

> Simple. I know how to use personal pronouns.

There isnt just one correct form in that situation.

> Whom do I vote for? I vote for him.
> Whom do I vote for? I vote for her.

> Whom will it be? It will be him.
> Whom will it be? It will be her.

> Whom == him == her
> Who == he == she

> Who/whom uses the *same* rules as
> do all the other personal pronouns.

It isnt that black and white.

>>> But no matter who the next president is, they will suck.

> Notice I use "who" there, because, as I said, who/whom
> uses the same rules as all the other personal pronouns.

> Who is the next president? He is the next president.
> Who is the next president? She is the next president.

> Whom == him == her
> Who == he == she

It isnt that black and white.

>> They will indeed, but are largely irrelevant.

>> Even Obama managed fuck all. He did get a significant change
>> with health care funding, but it remains to be seen how long
>> that will last and ended up with a stupid abortion anyway.

> Obama is just ok. He's black, so that's the biggest thing he ever did.

He didn't do that, his parents did.

> But he's just ok.
> No better and no worse than lots of other presidents.

Style wise he is better than quite a few.

> The only good presidents are war presidents anyway, it seems.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

> For example, exclude presidents who were in office
> when a war started, and then try to find a good one.

FDR for starters.

> I'll bet it's a tough assignment. :)

Nope.

>>> However, I've taken a look at past presidents, where it turns out
>>> the vast majority sucked just as badly as the next one will. History
>>> shows we will get by because we have separation of powers.

>> Will get by because the prez is essentially irrelevant.

> They must be. We survived a lot of really bad ones.

Yep. That's how the system is designed.

>>> What matters more now, than the president, is the makeup of
>>> Congress. Everything now depends on which side has the majority.

>> Even then, fuck all Congresses make any real difference.

> Actually, they make the laws.

But because of the way it operates, fuck all changes.

>> Going to be interesting to see if Trump ends up producing
>> a decent majority for the Dems regardless of who is prez.

> This may be the case. They're both really bad, but one is in sync
> with the party machine, which probably gives that one an edge.

It doesn't have anything to do with the party machine.

>>> That's the only place my vote can possibly count, but, being in
>>> California, even that result of voting numbers is nearly a fait 
>>> accompli.

>> Yep, I don't bother to vote myself, complete waste of my time.;

> Actually, I vote.

I used to, then realised it was completely pointless.

And voting is compulsory here.

> But it's still a waste of time to do so, at least for President.

> In California, we have this proposition thing where
> the government trusts the voters to make law.

Not really.

> Sigh.

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  Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-11 01:13 -0400
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        Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-10-11 17:23 -0500
      Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 04:41 +1100
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          Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-12 17:28 +1100
      Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-10-11 17:21 -0500
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                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-12 21:15 +0000
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                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-13 02:31 +0000
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                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-13 16:35 +1100
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-13 13:57 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 04:04 +1100
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-14 00:24 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-14 00:36 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 12:17 +1100
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-14 19:08 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 10:47 +1100
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                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs MalcolmO <user@domain.invalid> - 2016-10-15 07:47 -0400
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-10-15 16:38 -0500
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 12:16 +1100
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 15:27 +1100
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-10-14 22:54 -0500
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 15:44 +1100
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-10-14 22:52 -0500
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 15:42 +1100
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-10-12 20:25 -0500
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-13 02:11 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-13 02:31 +0000
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                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-13 02:42 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-12 22:52 -0400
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-13 06:37 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-13 16:09 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-13 16:15 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-13 04:25 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-10-13 16:42 -0500
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-14 00:24 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-14 00:38 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 12:20 +1100
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-14 19:08 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs ElfinArc <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 14:15 -0500
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-14 23:30 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-14 19:46 -0400
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 10:56 +1100
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-10-14 12:18 -0700
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-15 00:27 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 11:48 +1100
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-10-14 18:14 -0700
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-15 02:11 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-14 15:35 -0400
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-14 23:37 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 11:32 +1100
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-15 03:48 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 10:45 +1100
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-15 03:48 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 15:39 +1100
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 11:59 +1100
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-14 19:08 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 10:41 +1100
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-15 03:48 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 15:34 +1100
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-10-13 15:27 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-14 00:24 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-10-14 15:47 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-14 19:08 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-10-14 12:15 -0700
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-15 00:27 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 11:41 +1100
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-15 03:48 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 15:23 +1100
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-10-14 18:14 -0700
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-15 01:56 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 10:39 +1100
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeriahoran.net> - 2016-10-15 03:48 +0000
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 15:32 +1100
                Re: iMessage is the glue that keeps people stuck to their iPhones and Macs Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-10-16 14:49 +0000
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