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Re: Subaru XV indicators

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On 7/8/2016 11:48 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>> On 8/07/2016 9:10 PM, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 7/8/2016 7:02 PM, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 8/07/2016 6:24 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>> On 07-July-2016 7:40 PM, Xeno wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/07/2016 4:16 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>> On 06-July-2016 2:23 AM, F Murtz wrote:
>>>>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>>>>>>>> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> felix wrote:
>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>> you can barely use an Android phone without a Google account.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Or  win 10 without a something account.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    Well, that was sort-of the case in 8.1 as well, if you weren't
>>>>>>>>> smart
>>>>>>>>> enough to read the fineprint.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    I have 8.1 without a Microsoft Account, 'upgraded' to 10 without
>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> and rolled back to 8.1 without one.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    Using an Android Device without a Google Account is much harder,
>>>>>>>>> unless you don't need any paid apps and are prepared to re-install
>>>>>>>>> apps
>>>>>>>>> instead of updating them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a laptop with 8.1 and a tablet with win 10 and android 5.1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> doesn't your phone auto update the OS?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It shouldn't. My iPhones, past and present, have never done that by
>>>>>> default and there's a reason the default is set that way.
>>>>>
>>>>> sorry, I didn't mean automatically update the OS. they normally tell you
>>>>> there's an update available that you can do. however, with some phones
>>>>> you can't update the OS beyond the one in the phone
>>>>>
>>>> That's why I have an iPhone. You might be referring to Android based
>>>> phones. Certainly this is not the case with Apple iOS since my previous
>>>> phone was updated right to the latest iOS and, I'm sure, it will be
>>>> possible to update it to the next few iOS releases too!
>>>>
>>>> BTW, my 3 year old iPad has been updated to the latest iOS. Ditto for my
>>>> 2008 vintage MacPro though, it must be said, it uses OSX, not iOS.
>>>>
>>> As does my Nexus Android phone, it gets any OS updates (it has gone from
>>> 4.4 to 5.0 to 6.0 to 6.1) and monthly security updates, not to mention
>>> updates to applications straight from google.
>>
>> Then I fail to see what the issue is. An Android phone I had in the past
>> didn't update (upgrade?) to the latest version, just did updates to the
>> original version but that was a while ago. Things seem to have changed
>> since then if your Nexus does OS upgrades as well as updates.
>
>   'Nexus' is Google's alternative to Apple's iPhone/iPad. I.e. it is
> *also* proprietary and *also* a walled-garden (and *also* expensive and
> *also* limited (in both range and functionality)).

It is no more "Propriety" than any other Android phone, there is no 
"Walled garden", it's just the same as any other Android, it cost half 
what an iPhone or a top end Samsung would have done. Get your facts 
straight Frank, and BTW, in what way is it limited in range and 
function, in the 3 years that I've owned it, I've found neither.
>
>   Imagine how silly it would be if Microsoft would only support - as
> in providing updates and upgrades - Windows on *Microsoft* devices! Did
> your brain already explode? Fast forward to Android and you have the
> same situation of Google only supporting Android on *its* (Google's)
> 'Nexus' devices.
>
>   Moral: No, Android support *doesn't* suck, it doesn't *exist*!

Bullshit!

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Re: Subaru XV indicators felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-07-07 16:16 +1000
  Re: Subaru XV indicators Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-07-07 19:40 +1000
    Re: Subaru XV indicators felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-07-08 18:24 +1000
      Re: Subaru XV indicators Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-07-08 19:02 +1000
        Re: Subaru XV indicators keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-07-08 21:10 +1000
          Re: Subaru XV indicators Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-07-08 21:40 +1000
            Re: Subaru XV indicators Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-08 13:48 +0000
              Re: Subaru XV indicators Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-07-09 00:03 +1000
              Re: Subaru XV indicators keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-07-09 22:16 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-09 18:11 +0000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-07-10 19:24 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-10 18:57 +0000
            Re: Subaru XV indicators Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-07-08 21:55 +0800
        Re: Subaru XV indicators felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-07-08 21:50 +1000

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