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Re: I'm saving the group's statistics ;-)

From Hugo Villeneuve-Lapointe <hugo_villap@email.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc
Subject Re: I'm saving the group's statistics ;-)
Date 2026-03-01 18:31 -0500
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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Qliver Sieciowiec <q-net@openqliver.my.domain> wrote:
> On 2026-02-23, Experymentator <Experymentator@OpenDell.my.domain> wrote:
>> When I saw the OpenBSD handbook: https://www.openbsdhandbook.com [...]
> 
> https://man.openbsd.org/vga
> 
> utf8 + console = problems (yet)
> 

That's for i386 plateforms only. It use the CGA/EGA/VGA style text
console that IBM PCs came with in the 1980s.

Probably nobody bought a i386 intel in 15-18 years. 

Debian is dropping the architecture in their next release.

With every arch having a framebuffer hardware console or nothing,
OpenBSD could have basic UTF-8 support for at least the Latin
languages.

But it doesn't. Because sometimes, OpenBSD half-ass things. 

Right now, the keyboard layout you choose at install creates 8 bits
codes at the console but when X11 picks up the same info at startup,
it initialize a similar layout that use UTF-8 codes.

That's weird. You can't really run 2 conflicting system at the same
time with zero issues. (Unless you only write English.)

For non-English user of OpenBSD, I would recommand:
- setup X11 quickly (with your prefered keyboard layout, LANG env)
- limit the console to short admin tasks
- don't use non-ASCII (accented) letters in passwords. Because the
keyboard will not creates the same chars at the console versus
X11/remotely(ssh).


My opinion.

-- 
Hugo Villeneuve-Lapointe

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I'm saving the group's statistics ;-) Experymentator <Experymentator@OpenDell.my.domain> - 2026-02-23 18:25 +0000
  Re: I'm saving the group's statistics ;-) Qliver Sieciowiec <q-net@OpenQliver.my.domain> - 2026-03-01 16:04 +0000
    Re: I'm saving the group's statistics ;-) Hugo Villeneuve-Lapointe <hugo_villap@email.invalid> - 2026-03-01 18:31 -0500
      Re: I'm saving the group's statistics ;-) Pan Net <q-net@koti.pl> - 2026-03-02 17:17 +0000
      Re: I'm saving the group's statistics ;-) Experymentator <Experymentator@OpenDell.my.domain> - 2026-03-02 17:57 +0000
    Re: I'm saving the group's statistics ;-) Experymentator <Experymentator@OpenDell.my.domain> - 2026-03-02 17:52 +0000

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