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On 22/02/2016 1:28 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Feb 2016 10:05:32 +1100, Trevor Wilson
> <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 22/02/2016 7:16 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>> Yes, it can be repaired with a rebuild kit.
>>> <http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=hp+color+laserjet+fuser+rebuild>
>
>> **Looks like my only solution is this:
>>
>> * Buy a replacement fuser and hope that is the only fault. Cost will
>> exceed AUS$300.00.
>> * Buy a new printer. I found a multifunction device from HP, which would
>> do the job. Model MFP M177FW.  RRP AUS$329.00. For a few more Bucks
>> (about AUS$300.00), I could buy a Dell C2665dnf. Thoughts?
>
> Sigh.
> 1.  You didn't bother to mention what is wrong with the fuser.  It
> might be an easy fix requiring a minimum of parts and expertise.
> Extract the fuser and look at it.  Most problems can be found by
> visual inspection.

**The fuser appears to be OK, but then, without a manual, I cannot 
measure what is inside the fuser to determine what, if anything, may be 
faulty. My biggest fear is that the fuser may not be faulty and that it 
may be something else. For that, I require a schematic.

> 2.  Dell printers are VERY proprietary.  Obtaining parts are almost
> impossible.  I hate them.

**OK. Scratch the Dell.

> 3.  Consumer grade HP printers, including the MFP M177FW are mostly
> junk.  They are built flimsy, have designed in wear problems, and
> rattle badly when printing.  Same problem with parts as Dell except
> that you can sometimes find the larger sub-assemblies with HP.  The
> US$300 entry price is reasonable.  Replacement carts vary from US$50
> (eBay) to US$250 (HP).  You'll get about 1000 pages per cart at 5%
> coverage, yielding a cost per page of US$0.05 to US$0.25 per page
> depending on where you buy the cartridge.  However, if you're printing
> full page 8x10 photos, your costs will be over 10 times higher due to
> increased coverage.  Do the math before you take the plunge.

**If I print photos, I use an ink jet printer (which is now my back-up 
printer for general purpose use). I've never seen a colour laser printer 
that can match even a relatively inexpensive ink jet.

>
>> There's a Samsung in the mix, but I purchased a Samsung a couple of
>> years back. Atrocious POS. A simple paper jam would typically take 30
>> mins to clear.
>
> Yep.  Also some difficulties finding replacement cartridges.  I have
> to deal with an office full of them.  I think there are about 20
> Samsung printers scattered around.  I fix them by cannibalism.
> Eventually I'll run out of parts printers, which is fine with me.
>
>> After owning 4 HP printers, I have always found that
>> paper jams are quickly and easily cleared. I a leaning towards HP for
>> that reason.
>
> I used to thing that paper jams were normal for laser printers.  Then,
> I got a lecture on how they work, why they jam, and what can be done
> to solve the problem.  Very roughly, I keep the machine clean, replace
> the rubber feed rollers and friction pads regularly, and make an
> effort not to let the paper absorb moisture or form any shape besides
> flat.  I also clean the stripper fingers, fuser roller, and plastic
> parts that contact the paper.  On printers that I've worked over, and
> my own, I don't see very many paper jams.
>

**In fairness, paper jams in all my HP lasers have been extremely rare. 
FWIW: I've owned LJIIP, LJIIIP, LJVMP (still own that one - still works, 
but nothing talks to it, except IR).

-- 
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2016-02-21 17:22 +1100
  Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2016-02-21 17:23 +1100
    Re: HP laserjet experts Help! "Andy Wood" <woodag@trap.ozemail.com.au> - 2016-02-22 07:03 +1100
  Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! news13 <newsthirteenspam-spam@woa.com.au> - 2016-02-21 06:46 +0000
    Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 01:16 -0800
  Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2016-02-20 23:25 -0800
    Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> - 2016-02-21 14:13 +0000
  Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Colin Horsley <horsley-spam@westnet.com.au> - 2016-02-21 22:15 +1100
  Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-02-21 12:16 -0800
    Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2016-02-22 07:56 +1100
      Re: HP laserjet experts Help! "Kenny" <me@privacy.net> - 2016-02-21 21:21 +0000
    Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2016-02-22 10:05 +1100
      Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! news13 <newsthirteenspam-spam@woa.com.au> - 2016-02-22 01:39 +0000
        Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-02-21 18:44 -0800
          Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! news13 <newsthirteenspam-spam@woa.com.au> - 2016-02-22 06:41 +0000
      Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-02-21 18:28 -0800
        Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2016-02-22 14:59 +1100
          Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-02-21 21:06 -0800
            Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2016-02-23 08:43 +1100
              Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-02-22 16:03 -0800
              Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com> - 2016-02-23 11:50 +0000
            Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2016-02-23 09:13 +1100
              Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2016-02-23 09:36 +1100
              Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-02-22 16:19 -0800
                Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-02-22 16:39 -0800
                Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-02-22 16:48 -0800
                Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2016-02-23 16:12 +1100
                Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-02-22 23:16 -0800
                Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2016-03-04 11:07 +1100
                Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! MJC <gravity@mjcoon.plus.com> - 2016-02-23 12:10 +0000
                Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-02-23 07:54 -0800
  Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid> - 2016-02-22 22:33 +0000
  Re: PING: HP laserjet experts Help! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 06:42 +0800

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