Re: Halal & Maccas

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.computers
Subject	Re: Halal & Maccas
Date	2016-01-23 17:46 +1100
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"jonz" <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> On Friday, 22 January 2016 16:13:32 UTC+11, jonz  wrote:
>> On Friday, 22 January 2016 15:35:00 UTC+11, Fran Farmer  wrote:
>> > On 22/01/2016 9:58 AM, Petzl wrote:
>> > > On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 09:44:16 +1100, "Dechucka" 
>> > > <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > >> news:4qm2abhfmt01sj2u1trmeb9cddbjn7qev4@4ax.com...
>> > >>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 00:05:32 +1100, Gordon Levi
>> > >>> <gordon@address.invalid> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 20:32:22 +1100, Gordon Levi
>> > >>>>> <gordon@address.invalid> wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Fran Farmer wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>> On 21/01/2016 11:30 AM, F Murtz wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Bet you can not buy non halal spring roll pastry in your
>> > >>>>>>>>> supermarket.
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Why would you want to anyway?  They aren't hard to make at 
>> > >>>>>>>> home.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Not the point,and it would not be the only example by any 
>> > >>>>>>> means, it was
>> > >>>>>>> the one I researched, it is extremely difficult to find any 
>> > >>>>>>> packaged
>> > >>>>>>> food not certified.
>> > >>>>>>> I can not figure you lot out in your acceptance of halal
>> > >>>>>>> certification,3% questionably of the population has a 
>> > >>>>>>> benefit,the other
>> > >>>>>>> 97% has, if they do not want certified halal have to search web 
>> > >>>>>>> pages
>> > >>>>>>> etc (according to another poster) for non certified.
>> > >>>>>>> It would be more logical if the norm was not certified, and the 
>> > >>>>>>> 3% had
>> > >>>>>>> to search for halal.
>> > >>>>>>> I just can not figure out why it is all topsy turvey.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Because very few people care if their food, apart from meat, is 
>> > >>>>>> Halal
>> > >>>>>> certified or not. What harm does the Halal (or Kosher) 
>> > >>>>>> certification
>> > >>>>>> of manufactured food do? Obviously manufacturers believe that 
>> > >>>>>> the
>> > >>>>>> costs are covered by increased sales so it does not cost you any 
>> > >>>>>> money
>> > >>>>>> and may even save some. Do you believe that having a rabbi or 
>> > >>>>>> imam
>> > >>>>>> inspect the factory once a year will damage your food?
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> We should certainly eliminate "exempt abattoirs"
>> > >>>>>> <http://www.rspca.org.au/un-stunned-slaughter>.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Most certainly costs sales not even Moslems touch "Halal 
>> > >>>>> Certified"
>> > >>>>> products and statistics back that up!
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> So why do manufacturers have their products certified? Major
>> > >>>> manufacturers spend large sums on market research and could easily
>> > >>>> experiment with some brands certified and some not.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Halal Certification is getting away with it because it is rarely
>> > >>>>> identifified as terrorist taxed!
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Even if that is true it does not explain the OP's difficulty in
>> > >>>> finding products that are not certified. Manufacturers would not 
>> > >>>> hand
>> > >>>> over money if it did not increase sales.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> I always leave pork in with the lamb and beef in supermarkets 
>> > >>>>> what
>> > >>>>> harm is that!
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Why? Muslims and Jews will read the label but a Christian in a 
>> > >>>> hurry
>> > >>>> will be have to put with a dry pork chop instead of the tasty lamb
>> > >>>> chop they were looking forward to.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> <http://bit.ly/1NnJbnH>
>> > >>> If it's Halal it's dry bland and tastless anyhow!
>> > >>
>> > >> It isn't, the only difference between Halal and non-halal is that in 
>> > >> Halal
>> > >> the animal is 'reversibly stunned' after that it is the same 
>> > >> process:-
>> > >> hooked up by the back legs throat slit AND THE ANIMAL IS BLED OUT
>> > >
>> > >   http://bit.ly/1NnJbnH
>> > > NO!
>> > >
>> > > When a animal is instantly killed first the "Bleeding out process" is
>> > > not as much as with Halal slaughter, where the animal, being alive,
>> > > heart beating, dying slowly, in pain and terror, choking on it's own
>> > > blood!
>> >
>> > You're wrong about many things in that paragraph.  The RSPCA says the
>> > following about slaughter in Australia:
>> > "The main concern with halal slaughter is whether or not pre-slaughter
>> > stunning is used. In Australia, the national standard for meat
>> > production requires that all animals must be effectively stunned
>> > (unconscious) prior to slaughter. The vast majority of halal slaughter
>> > in Australia (including at export abattoirs) complies with this
>> > standard, that is, all animals are stunned prior to slaughter.
>> ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬`
>>
>>
>> tHE "vast majority" becomes "All animals" how jolly convenient......
>>
>>
>> ¬¬ The only
>> > difference is that a reversible stunning method is used, while
>> > conventional humane slaughter may use an irreversible stunning method.
>> > The time to regain consciousness following a reversible stun may vary
>> > depending on the intensity of the stun. At Australian abattoirs, the 
>> > aim
>> > is to ensure that reversible stunning is done in a way that depth of
>> > unconsciousness is sufficient to allow for the animal to bleed out and
>> > die before there is a chance of regaining consciousness. "
>> ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬
>> How does that sit with this??:
>>
>>                       For meat to be considered kosher under Jewish law 
>> or halal under Islamic law, the animal must be conscious when killed. The 
>> halal code stipulates that animals are killed quickly with one sweep of a 
>> knife. They should not see the knife, or witness the death of other 
>> animals.Feb 3, 2015
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Clear as a bell, from the RSPCA, not some looney anti Moslem site.  The
>> > animal being slaughtered DOES NOT choke on it's own blood.  Ad I can
>> > vouch for that form observing how fast the process is in an abattoir.
>> ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬```````
>>
>>   http://tinyurl.com/j6k54r4
>>                  ---//---
>> Repost from 2012
>>
>>   I worked at the D.M.B.A. abattoir in Dunedin for a short time over 40
>> >> years ago. the halal killing (sheep) was done just before knockoff on
>> >> most friday`s.......What a fucking schemozzle, two of them (sometimes
>> >> three) would be at the sticking pen, slashing away at the animals
>> >> throats,while chanting prayers??.....*eventually* the animal would be
>> >> dead, and they would move on to the next. (usually no more than six or
>> >> seven, small mercy`s i guess ) every one on the floor complained. we
>> >> were told "it`s their way of doing things, like it or lump it" i 
>> >> lumped
>> >> it!
>> ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬`
>> It would appear that joe public is *Still* being hoodwinked...
>
>
>
> Where are all the "holier than thous" berating me for pedalling b/s??

Doesn't happen here.

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                Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-23 08:30 +1100
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                Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-23 17:25 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-23 22:01 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-23 16:02 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 22:10 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-22 00:20 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-22 01:09 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 06:16 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-22 09:26 +1100
          Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-21 07:24 +1100
            Re: Halal & Maccas felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 09:13 +1100
              Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-21 09:15 +1100
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                Re: Halal & Maccas The Equalizer <coming4you@never.invalid.net> - 2016-01-20 22:37 +0000
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                Re: Halal & Maccas Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2016-01-20 23:11 +0000
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                Re: Halal & Maccas Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2016-01-21 01:02 +0000
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                Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-21 15:39 +1100
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                Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-22 08:19 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 09:59 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2016-01-20 23:21 +0000
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                Re: Halal & Maccas Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2016-01-21 00:30 +0000
                Re: Halal & Maccas felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 15:52 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Your_newsgroup_devil Ördög <lies-greed-corruption-hate@lnp.org.au> - 2016-01-21 07:24 +0000
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                Re: Halal & Maccas felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 10:34 +1100
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            Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-21 08:39 +1100
            Re: Halal & Maccas Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2016-01-20 21:58 +0000
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            Re: Halal & Maccas Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 17:58 +1100
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              Re: Halal & Maccas Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-26 20:41 +1100
        Re: Halal & Maccas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 20:08 +1100
        Re: Halal & Maccas Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 08:50 +1100
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                Re: Halal & Maccas keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-21 21:53 +1000
                Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-22 17:06 +1100
            Re: Halal & Maccas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 11:09 +1100
          Re: Halal & Maccas Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-21 01:38 +1100
            Re: Halal & Maccas Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 08:25 +1100
              Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-21 08:27 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-21 10:05 +1100
              Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-21 10:04 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 16:14 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "SG1" <Lost@the.races.com> - 2016-01-21 16:04 +1000
                Re: Halal & Maccas Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 17:50 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-21 18:18 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-21 18:17 +1100
              Re: Halal & Maccas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 11:12 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 18:52 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 20:35 +1100
          Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-21 07:26 +1100
            Re: Halal & Maccas felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 09:12 +1100
              Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-21 09:14 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 09:26 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-21 10:43 +1100
            Re: Halal & Maccas F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-21 11:36 +1100
              Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-21 11:48 +1100
              Re: Halal & Maccas Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 12:24 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-21 12:32 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 16:12 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-21 18:29 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-22 07:14 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-22 06:30 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-22 07:18 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-22 17:19 +1100
          Re: Halal & Maccas keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-21 19:58 +1000
            Re: Halal & Maccas Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 22:18 +1100
              Re: Halal & Maccas keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-21 21:55 +1000
                Re: Halal & Maccas Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 23:28 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-22 06:33 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-22 16:57 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas news13 <newsthirteenspam-spam@woa.com.au> - 2016-01-22 01:13 +0000
                Re: Halal & Maccas Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 13:08 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-22 13:35 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-22 17:03 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-22 15:14 +1100
            Re: Halal & Maccas F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-22 15:11 +1100
              Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-22 17:05 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-22 18:14 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 18:36 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 20:31 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-23 00:27 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 19:26 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 20:56 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-22 22:35 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 02:08 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-22 22:21 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-23 00:07 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-23 00:34 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-23 09:33 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-23 13:18 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-23 16:03 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-23 16:48 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-23 17:26 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-23 18:30 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 19:49 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-23 21:46 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-24 07:31 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 17:28 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-23 21:49 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-24 07:56 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 17:44 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-23 18:31 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 19:48 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-24 08:15 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-23 21:42 +1100
              Re: Halal & Maccas Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 17:31 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-22 17:43 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-22 22:52 +1100
              Re: Halal & Maccas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 19:07 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 19:19 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 20:37 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 20:40 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-22 23:01 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-27 00:33 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 05:18 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-23 09:02 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-23 09:37 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-23 10:26 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Ördög Mephisto Belphegor Lucifer Satan <Belphegor@Hell.biz> - 2016-01-23 00:23 +0000
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 13:21 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 13:25 +1100
          Re: Halal & Maccas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 10:56 +1100
            Re: Halal & Maccas Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 11:35 +1100
              Re: Halal & Maccas "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 15:11 +1100
              Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-22 17:13 +1100
              Re: Halal & Maccas not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-01-22 07:17 +0000
                Re: Halal & Maccas Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 18:42 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-01-22 07:55 +0000
                Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-22 23:05 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-23 09:05 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-23 09:04 +1100
  Re: Halal & Maccas news13 <newsthirteenspam-spam@woa.com.au> - 2016-01-20 04:03 +0000
    Re: Halal & Maccas felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-20 18:36 +1100
      Re: Halal & Maccas keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-20 22:14 +1000
        Re: Halal & Maccas felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 00:45 +1100
          Re: Halal & Maccas felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 08:56 +1100
            Re: Halal & Maccas Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2016-01-20 22:10 +0000
              Re: Halal & Maccas felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 09:25 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas The Equalizer <coming4you@never.invalid.net> - 2016-01-20 22:55 +0000
                Re: Halal & Maccas felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 10:38 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2016-01-21 00:34 +0000
                Re: Halal & Maccas felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 15:55 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas Your_newsgroup_devil Ördög <lies-greed-corruption-hate@lnp.org.au> - 2016-01-21 07:32 +0000
            Re: Halal & Maccas keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-21 19:49 +1000
              Re: Halal & Maccas felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 22:15 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-21 22:07 +1000
          Re: Halal & Maccas keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-21 19:47 +1000
            Re: Halal & Maccas felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 22:13 +1100
              Re: Halal & Maccas keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-21 22:01 +1000
                Re: Halal & Maccas The Equalizer <coming4you@never.invalid.net> - 2016-01-21 22:21 +0000
            Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-22 09:44 +1100
        Re: Halal & Maccas Jeßus <j@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-21 05:07 +1100
          Re: Halal & Maccas felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 09:01 +1100
            Re: Halal & Maccas Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2016-01-20 22:19 +0000
              Re: Halal & Maccas felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 09:30 +1100
                Re: Halal & Maccas The Equalizer <coming4you@never.invalid.net> - 2016-01-20 22:34 +0000
      Re: Halal & Maccas Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 08:38 +1100
        Re: Halal & Maccas felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 09:05 +1100
          Re: Halal & Maccas Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2016-01-20 22:13 +0000
            Re: Halal & Maccas "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-21 09:16 +1100
              Re: Halal & Maccas Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2016-01-20 22:19 +0000
              Re: Halal & Maccas felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 09:27 +1100
      Re: Halal & Maccas news13 <newsthirteenspam-spam@woa.com.au> - 2016-01-21 02:25 +0000
        Re: Halal & Maccas Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 15:18 +1100
  Re: Halal & Maccas hereford <takecarebeware@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 01:30 +1100
    Re: Halal & Maccas Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 08:31 +1100
      Re: Halal & Maccas Fran Farmer <ask@maybeitwillbeforthcoming.com> - 2016-01-21 10:29 +1100
    Re: Halal & Maccas felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 08:57 +1100

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