Re: I can remember when...

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.tv, aus.computers
Subject	Re: I can remember when...
Date	2016-01-15 15:54 +1100
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"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 10:12:12 +1100, Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 08:31:53 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 08:22:42 +1100, Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:34:21 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 12:40:46 +1100, Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 07:24:36 +0800, Clocky <notgonna@happen.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 14/01/2016 6:37 AM, Je?us wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 03:23:35 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Jeßus" <j@invalid.lan> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:ckpb9bhjovnvablqkqbj2f1idjqvuppmjb@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 16:45:38 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> felix <me@nothere.biz> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> felix <me@nothere.biz> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .. drinks in glass bottles had a screw top that could easily 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it wasn't made of light aluminum and pressed on by 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine. it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was actually screwed on and so could be screwed off 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relatively easily.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, do remember those. But now we have PET bottles that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have easily removed tops
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> say what?! those plastic drink bottles have the tops pressed on 
>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>>>>> almost just as hard to remove.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not the one I got on the train just a couple of weeks ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mate of mine reuses the PET bottles with
>>>>>>>>>>> easily removable tops for his beer he brews.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gag. How can anyone drink beer out of plastic bottles is beyond 
>>>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your problem, as always.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don't even try to tell me it doesnt affect the taste.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Try telling Coopers, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why? Just because they sell them?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Don't be TOO surprised when
>>>>>>>>> they just laugh in your stupid pig ignorant face, just like
>>>>>>>>> everyone else always does.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You'd be a goon bag fan too, no doubt. Bogan, through and through.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I had a mate who would brew his own. He was so proud but it tasted 
>>>>>>>bad.
>>>>>>>It was just like Coopers he insisted... well maybe he was right if 
>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>really do use plastic bottles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Coopers uses glass for their finished product, but they do sell empty
>>>>>>plastic bottles for the home brewer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bleh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Got that right. I've had home brew in those plastic bottles and it
>>>>>>definitely affects the taste, as do cans of course.
>>>>>Don't for me?
>>>>>I first filter my beer (after boiling in copper kettles)as it goes
>>>>>into stainless steel barrels (through a cooling "tower) for fermenting
>>>>>in a "cool room", after two weeks I bottle it often using 2 litre
>>>>>plastic bottles (makes it easier and time saving). As long as bottles
>>>>>are clean (been cleaned) makes no difference to taste
>>>>
>>>>I wish those bottles worked that way for me :)
>>>>
>>>>As an aside, I know one to two weeks is the standard time to allow for
>>>>fermentation, but I always let mine go for three to four weeks.
>>>>It always comes out that little bit better IMO. This is for ales, mind
>>>>you.
>>>
>>>Probably in a lot of places now, but there are home brew shops around
>>>Sydney that you can make your beer minimum time is two weeks up to
>>>four, but "they" (beershed people) check your beer and call you when
>>>it needs bottling. Seem to have down pat.
>>>this is my local one
>>>http://www.thebeershed.com.au/brewing-process/
>>
>>Yeah, I've heard of those, quite a good idea if you are time-poor.
>
> Also shows home brewers how to be better, worth the $40 and time IMO
> Seems to me you are not "aging/fermenting" your beer long enough?
> minnimum should be two weeks?
>
> By taking two hydrometer readings 24 hours apart you can establish if the
> yeast has done its job and make sure your beer is bottled at the right 
> time.

On the other hand, there is no real downside in letting it go a bit
longer than that, just a minor increased risk of infection which isnt
going to happen if you have the drew properly airlocked etc.

You also see the brew settle better too, so you don't get so
much sediment in the bottles and don't have to double fill
the bottles because there is too much dissolved CO2 in the
beer so you get too much head in the bottle when you
bottle it.

> When you think the beer is ready to bottle take a hydrometer
> reading and write it down where you won?t lose it.

Mine goes into the database along with the temperature
because that makes a difference to the SG if it changes
much from one day to the next.

> Take a second reading 24 hours later. If the two readings are
> the same you are ready to bottle. If they are different wait a
> day or so and try again till you get the same reading twice.

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