Re: Windows OS

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.cars, aus.computers
Subject	Re: Windows OS
Date	2015-12-27 19:30 +1100
Message-ID	<de9lu4Fg9qrU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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"D Walford" <dwalford@internode.on.net> wrote in message 
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> On 27/12/2015 3:41 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "D Walford" <dwalford@internode.on.net> wrote in message
>> news:567f4a13$0$1515$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com...
>>> On 27/12/2015 9:29 AM, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 22/12/2015 1:17 PM, D Walford wrote:
>>>>> On 22/12/2015 4:02 PM, XR8 Sprintless wrote:
>>>>>> On 22/12/2015 2:56 PM, felix_unger wrote:
>>>>>>> On 22-December-2015 3:20 PM, XR8 Sprintless wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So far I am yet to be convinced that Windows 10 is any better than
>>>>>>>> Windows 7.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's more complicated (difficult to use) and designed to encourage
>>>>>>> ppl
>>>>>>> to buy from the 'store'. I don't know why M$ never seem to 
>>>>>>> appreciate
>>>>>>> that simpler is better.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have the benefit of industry specific training packages, however in
>>>>>> saying that I still find that the interface is clunky and sometimes 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> does not take you where you actually want to go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example settings on the start menu gives you limited access to
>>>>>> certain settings, however to do anything you have to still go into
>>>>>> control panel which can be accessed at least by right clicking on the
>>>>>> start menu icon as well as computer management which is one I use all
>>>>>> the time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> After my recent crash recovery I reinstalled Win7 because I had the
>>>>> disc, now I keep getting messages to "upgrade" to 10.
>>>>> Good idea or not?
>>>>> I didn't mind 10 before the crash and I don't think it was the reason
>>>>> the computer crashed because it was locking it before I installed 10.
>>>>> For some reason the computer is a lot more stable now so I'm thinking 
>>>>> I
>>>>> should leave it alone despite it telling me that there is a hard drive
>>>>> error.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As Rod suggested you should post you SMART data as it will tell you the
>>>> condition of your drive and why you are receiving the error. The drive
>>>> might have developed bad sectors and if it runs out of reserve sectors
>>>> you will likely lose data so back-up anything important.
>>>>
>>>> There are any number of SMART drive monitors that are free to download
>>>> and use but you can try this first:
>>>>
>>>> Click Start and in the search box type CMD and press Enter (open the
>>>> Command Prompt)
>>>>
>>>> Type
>>>> wmic
>>>> and press Enter.
>>>>
>>>> Then type
>>>> diskdrive get status
>>>> and press Enter
>>>>
>>>> The returned status should say
>>>> Status
>>>> OK
>>>>
>>>> What are you getting?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Its says OK.
>>> A Google search suggests that the problem might be the cable or where
>>> its plugged into the mother board,
>>
>> That’s quite unlikely than the SMART report will tell me
>> if that is the problem even if you don’t understand it.
>
>
>>
>>> I've checked the connection and it looks OK.
>>> When I get time I will see if I have another cable.
>>
>> Makes more sense to get the SMART report first.
>
> 'ID' 'Description' 'Raw' 'Normalized' 'Threshold' 'Action'
> 5 Re-allocated Sector Count 3 100 0 Ready for use.
> 9 Power-On Hours Count 12257 100 0 Ready for use.
> 0C Power Cycle Count 1869 100 0 Ready for use.
> C0 Unsafe Shutdown Count 170 100 0 Ready for use.
> E1 Host Writes 5.62 TB 100 0 Ready for use.
> E8 Available Reserved Space 0 100 10 Ready for use.
> E9 Media Wearout Indicator 0 100 0 Ready for use.
> F1 Total LBAs Written 5.62 TB 100 0 Ready for use.
> F2 Total LBAs Read 4.72 TB 100 0 Ready for use.
> F9 Total NAND Writes 6712 100 0 Ready for use.
etc

That's not the Everest SMART report.
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/everest_free_edition.html

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                Re: Windows OS Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2015-12-27 00:05 +1100
                Re: Windows OS Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2015-12-27 00:25 +1100
                Re: Windows OS XR8 Sprintless <xr8_sprint@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-27 00:48 +1000
                Re: Windows OS Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2015-12-27 08:18 +1100
                Re: Windows OS "jonz@ nothere.com" <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 17:45 -0800
                Re: Windows OS Paul Saccani <saccani@omen.net.au> - 2016-01-01 15:03 +0800
                Re: Windows OS Paul Saccani <saccani@omen.net.au> - 2016-01-01 14:57 +0800
                Re: Windows OS "jonz@ nothere.com" <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2016-01-01 02:19 -0800
                Re: Windows OS XR8 Sprintless <xr8_sprint@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-01 20:51 +1000
                Re: Windows OS Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-01-04 22:33 +1100
                Re: Windows OS XR8 Sprintless <xr8_sprint@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-05 07:53 +1000
                Re: Windows OS Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-01-05 12:01 +1100
                Re: Windows OS XR8 Sprintless <xr8_sprint@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-07 07:26 +1000
                Re: Windows OS Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-01-07 09:08 +1100
                Re: Windows OS Paul Saccani <saccani@omen.net.au> - 2016-01-01 14:42 +0800
                Re: Windows OS Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-01-01 18:31 +1100
                Re: Windows OS Paul Saccani <saccani@omen.net.au> - 2016-01-02 15:03 +0800
                Re: Windows OS Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-01-03 00:10 +1100
                Re: Windows OS Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-01-04 23:42 +1100
                Re: Windows OS XR8 Sprintless <xr8_sprint@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-05 07:42 +1000
                Re: Windows OS Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-01-05 11:43 +1100
                Re: Windows OS felix <me@nothere.biz> - 2016-01-10 06:25 +1100
                Re: Windows OS XR8 Sprintless <xr8_sprint@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-01 18:15 +1000
                Re: Windows OS XR8 Sprintless <xr8_sprint@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-01 18:23 +1000
                Re: Windows OS Paul Saccani <saccani@omen.net.au> - 2016-01-02 14:58 +0800
                Re: Windows OS XR8 Sprintless <xr8_sprint@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-02 18:07 +1000
                Re: Windows OS "jonz@ nothere.com" <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 01:08 -0800
                Re: Windows OS XR8 Sprintless <xr8_sprint@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-02 19:58 +1000
                Re: Windows OS XR8 Sprintless <xr8_sprint@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-04 08:59 +1000
                Re: Windows OS XR8 Sprintless <xr8_sprint@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-04 13:46 +1000
                Re: Windows OS Paul Saccani <saccani@omen.net.au> - 2016-01-09 14:16 +0800
                Re: Windows OS "jonz@ nothere.com" <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 00:49 -0800
                Re: Windows OS "Blue Heeler" <woof@bark.org> - 2016-01-03 00:18 +0000
                Re: Windows OS "jonz@ nothere.com" <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 17:09 -0800
                Re: Windows OS "Blue Heeler" <woof@bark.org> - 2016-01-03 02:47 +0000
                Re: Windows OS Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-01-03 13:58 +1100
                Re: Windows OS Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2015-12-25 15:35 +1100
                Re: Windows OS Lindsay <ask.me.for.it@hornet.net.ay.you> - 2015-12-25 16:30 +1100
                Re: Windows OS Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2015-12-25 20:16 +1100
                Re: Windows OS Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2015-12-26 14:27 +1100
                Re: Windows OS Paul Saccani <saccani@omen.net.au> - 2016-01-01 13:14 +0800
                Re: Windows OS XR8 Sprintless <xr8_sprint@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-23 10:57 +1000
                Re: Windows OS D Walford <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2015-12-23 13:25 +1100
                Re: Windows OS XR8 Sprintless <xr8_sprint@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-23 12:39 +1000
                Re: Windows OS Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2015-12-24 07:05 +1100
                Re: Windows OS D Walford <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2015-12-24 10:52 +1100
                Re: Windows OS Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2015-12-24 10:58 +1100
                Re: Windows OS Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2015-12-25 09:01 +1100
                Re: Windows OS Paul Saccani <saccani@omen.net.au> - 2016-01-01 15:08 +0800
                Re: Windows OS Diesel Damo <Diesel_4WD@yahoo.com.au> - 2015-12-22 10:28 -0800
                Re: Windows OS Lindsay <ask.me.for.it@nunnya.business.com.au> - 2015-12-23 07:01 +1100
            Re: Windows OS felix_unger <me@nothere.biz> - 2015-12-22 21:23 +1100
              Re: Windows OS "jonz@ nothere.com" <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 03:07 -0800
                Re: Windows OS felix_unger <me@nothere.biz> - 2015-12-22 23:37 +1100
          Re: Windows OS Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 19:25 +1100
          Re: Windows OS hislop <takecarebeware@gmail.com> - 2015-12-22 22:25 +1100
      Re: Tom Clasener's lies - a Christmas competition. Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2015-12-22 18:08 +1100

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