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Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95

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"jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message 
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> Morten Reistad wrote:
>> In article <PM00051B4E73620116@aca24085.ipt.aol.com>,
>> jmfbahciv  <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>>Morten Reistad wrote:
>>>> In article
>>><1015421350458921596.089697peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
> ,
>>>> Peter Flass  <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Stephen Sprunk wrote:
>>>>>>> On 16-Jul-15 16:49, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>>>>>> Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 16-Jul-15 08:21, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> There is a big difference between earned and unearned.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes; the former is productive and the latter is parasitic.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is downright offensive for parasites to pay a lower tax rate
>>>>>>>>> than producers.  At minimum, the parasites should pay the same
>>>>>>>>> rate, and there is plenty of justification for them paying a
>>>>>>>>> _higher_ rate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's where Marx got it wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I said several different things there, so which are you saying is in
>>>>>>> agreement with Marx and incorrect?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You need labor _and_ capital (and raw materials) to  produce 
>>>>>>>> wealth.
>>>>>>>> One is no good without the others.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Labor alone produces Wealth; Capital is _not_ required.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please give an example where capital is not required.  I can't think 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> anything.  Even prostitution requires a bedroom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>A lot of software development nowadays.  Most people have already made 
>>>>>the
>>>>>capital investment by buying the hardware anyway.  After that all it 
>>>>>takes
>>>>>is ability and time.
>>>>
>>>> Software development needs capital. A computer, firstly. Yes, it may
>>>> have been bought years ago, but it is still capital. That purchase just
>>>> made the financial capital into working capital.
>>>>
>>>> And you need a house, lightning.
>>>
>>>And don't forget that elusive thingy we called intellectual
>>>property.  Nobody buiilds from cold iron anymore.
>>>
>>>/BAH
>>
>>
>> I have shyed away from having technology as the fifth variable in
>> the production function because it isn't consumed in the same way
>> as the others when used, so it is almost in another dimension.
>
> Yea.  We had long discussions about that when I was working.
> for instance, would you call a source tape of TOPS-20 intecllectual
> property?

TOPS-20 obviously was. 

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Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-07-19 10:10 +0200
  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-07-19 11:16 -0500
    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-07-19 21:21 +0100
      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Morten Reistad <first@last.navn> - 2015-07-19 23:46 +0200
        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-20 13:29 +0000
  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-07-19 16:55 +0000
  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-20 13:29 +0000
    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-07-21 09:56 +0200
      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-22 12:20 +0000
        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-07-22 06:05 -0700
        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-23 06:38 +1000

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