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On 2025-11-12 06:11, Gremlin wrote:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
> news:e96dulxnku.ln2@Telcontar.valinor Wed, 12 Nov 2025 01:59:42 GMT in
> comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote:
> 
> 
>> A evil doc would have first to get inside the network somehow. And
>> supposedly the mail server would scan every email for malware before
>> accepting it.
> 
> A virus scanner can only scan for things it already knows, or using hueristics,
> things it might think are viral in nature. If it doesn't trigger the
> hueristics and it's not a known to your virus scanner sample, it gets right
> past it and is free to do whatever it was written to do. Malware is a rather
> generic term, too. Viruses are a special subset. They actually replicate,
> intentionally. Most Malware is in the form of a trojan. It doesn't replicate.
> 
>> They were pretty paranoid those people, for the time. Things that I new
>> and I remember: windows were antitempest, wifi got prohibited.  Login
>> was a code that rotated once per minute on a small gadget with a display
>> plus a remembered code.
> 
> That doesn't really do much good if you allow .doc files and trust your
> security to an antivirus scanner in that respect. It was trivial to get around
> them. Windows is a very well known and highly exploited operating system. It's
> been that way for decades.
> 
>>   From current times, when I wanted to share a file with some corporate
>> user, say at a bank, or the doctor at the NHS, they said no to an USB
>> stick. Email it, please. Because that way, files are scanned and vetted
>> by IT. An USB is simply prohibited, very unsafe. Would have to be
>> manually scanned by some official.
> 
> A virus scanner is only as good as it's last definitions. And, if it has no
> match for the viral code, and the viral code is written well enough not to
> trigger a hueristics hit, the virus gets right past your defenses. It's
> executed with the same user rights you have. Using exploits it can gain access
> rights you do not have.
> 
> The Melissa virus didn't even use exploits - but had no issues spreading like
> a wildfire. Entirely thanks to people with your mindset at the time.
> 
> 


The point is, it keeps IT happy. About docs, you can block any doc that 
contains macros. No need to scan for known virii.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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  Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-12 02:59 +0100
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      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-14 14:18 +0100
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          Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-14 22:20 +0100
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      Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-12 06:29 +0000
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                Re: What Thinkest Thou Of LO Donate Banner? Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-11-21 15:35 +0000

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