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Re: lvalue types

Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Date 2018-04-17 07:25 -0700
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Subject Re: lvalue types
From supercat@casperkitty.com

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On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 8:51:31 PM UTC-5, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 4/16/18 7:22 PM, supercat@casperkitty.com wrote:
> > That is *generally* true, but there are some notable exceptions such as
> > 6.5p7.  That paragraph primarily affects programs whose meaning would
> > otherwise be unambiguously implied by implementations' specified storage
> > formats.
> 
> An you don't seem to understand that what this paragraph says (as
> supported by the footnote) that this limitation defines what the
> Standard enforces on an implementation. NOTHING in this statement says
> that an implementation can't define other conditions or methods of
> accesses and how they behave.

The paragraph, as written, makes any program that uses structures containing
non-character members and doesn't jump through absurd hoops to do is not
strictly conforming, even if it would otherwise (in the absence of that
paragraph) be strictly conforming and there would be no ambiguity as to its
meaning.

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lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-03-01 16:38 -0800
  Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-01 17:17 -0800
  Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-03-01 17:37 -0800
    Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-01 22:00 -0800
    Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-01 23:49 -0800
      Re: lvalue types asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2018-03-05 06:56 -0800
    Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-03-02 00:22 -0800
      Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-02 01:23 -0800
      Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-02 05:04 -0800
        Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-02 06:06 -0800
          Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-02 08:12 -0800
      Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-03-02 09:50 -0800
        Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-03-02 11:33 -0800
          Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-03-02 11:45 -0800
            Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-03-02 16:28 -0800
              Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-03-02 16:54 -0800
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-03-02 17:50 -0800
                Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-03-02 19:43 -0800
                Re: lvalue types Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-03-02 22:51 -0800
                Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-02 23:07 -0800
                Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 01:44 -0800
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-03-03 13:01 -0800
          Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-02 22:21 -0800
    Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-03-02 09:24 -0800
    Re: lvalue types Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-03-03 00:58 -0800
      Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-03 01:13 -0800
      Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-03-03 13:01 -0800
        Re: lvalue types supercat <flatfinger@casperkitty.com> - 2018-03-03 17:43 -0800
        Re: lvalue types Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-03-04 02:22 -0800
          Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-03-04 13:03 -0800
          Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-03-04 13:03 -0800
            Re: lvalue types bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-03-04 22:32 +0000
            Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-03-05 09:45 -0800
            Re: lvalue types Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-03-19 09:54 -0700
              Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-03-19 11:52 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-03-26 23:44 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-03-27 09:14 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-03-27 12:21 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 17:01 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-29 01:54 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-03-30 08:32 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-03-30 09:25 -0700
                Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-03-30 10:58 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-31 00:52 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-04-02 15:19 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-03 10:06 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-04-03 11:33 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-03 12:19 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-04-03 12:48 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-05 10:17 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-04-05 10:52 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-05 12:39 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-06 06:13 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-04-04 16:38 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-03-27 12:09 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-28 10:48 -0700
              Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-03-19 12:27 -0700
          Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-03 14:02 -0700
            Re: lvalue types Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-04-04 17:32 -0700
              Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-04 20:24 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-04-09 08:31 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-04-11 11:19 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-11 12:44 -0700
                Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-12 06:45 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-12 07:54 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-04-12 14:26 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-12 14:43 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-04-12 17:40 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 03:02 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-13 00:27 -0700
                Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-13 07:19 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-16 08:52 -0700
                Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-16 10:28 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-16 13:58 -0700
                Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-16 14:52 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-16 16:22 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-04-16 21:51 -0400
                Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-04-16 19:42 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-04-16 21:30 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2018-04-17 07:01 -0400
                Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 04:22 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-04-19 02:43 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-17 07:25 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-04-17 08:48 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-17 09:54 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-04-17 10:37 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-17 11:00 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-04-17 11:48 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-17 12:45 -0700
                Re: lvalue types scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-04-17 19:55 +0000
                Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-17 13:13 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-17 14:00 -0700
                Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-17 19:45 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-18 08:27 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-04-18 09:12 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-18 10:13 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-04-18 11:01 -0700
                Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-18 11:51 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-18 12:15 -0700
                Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-18 12:30 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-18 13:25 -0700
                Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-19 10:51 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-04-18 12:38 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-18 14:39 -0700
                Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-18 21:17 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-04-19 02:40 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 03:01 -0700
                Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-19 06:49 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-19 07:58 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-04-20 08:19 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-19 12:17 -0700
                Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-19 12:51 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-19 13:37 -0700
                Re: lvalue types scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-04-19 21:08 +0000
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-19 14:50 -0700
                Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-19 14:56 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-19 16:13 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-21 10:27 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-04-23 11:37 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-18 16:07 -0700
                Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-18 09:20 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-18 11:25 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-04-17 14:13 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-17 15:05 -0700
                Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-17 19:57 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-18 08:43 -0700
                Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-18 09:36 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-17 11:37 -0700
                Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-17 20:23 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-18 09:23 -0700
                Re: lvalue types scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2018-04-18 17:29 +0000
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-18 10:47 -0700
                Re: lvalue types bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2018-04-18 20:04 +0100
                Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-18 10:48 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-18 13:23 -0700
                Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-18 14:26 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-18 15:36 -0700
                Re: lvalue types jameskuyper@verizon.net - 2018-04-19 10:39 -0700
                Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-04-19 12:42 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-04-16 21:29 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-04-23 11:39 -0700
                Re: lvalue types Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-06-14 02:53 -0700
              Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-04 21:30 -0700
      Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-03-03 14:19 -0800
  Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-01 18:03 -0800
  Re: lvalue types John Bode <jfbode1029@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 10:33 -0700
    Re: lvalue types Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2018-03-21 11:53 -0700
      Re: lvalue types Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 00:11 -0700
    Re: lvalue types supercat@casperkitty.com - 2018-03-21 11:53 -0700
    Re: lvalue types Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2018-03-26 23:04 -0700

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