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A dying HDD in a very old 15" MacBook Pro from 2008?

Newsgroups comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage, comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage, alt.comp.periphs.hdd
From Ant <ant@zimage.comANT>
Subject A dying HDD in a very old 15" MacBook Pro from 2008?
Date 2016-03-12 16:53 -0800
Message-ID <aOadnUjki59kJHnLnZ2dnUU7-TOdnZ2d@earthlink.com> (permalink)

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Hi.

I noticed a client's 15" MacBook Pro responding slowly, locked up with 
Firefox and couldn't kill it, and shut down. Even booting up after doing 
a force shut down with the power button was slow. I decided to check the 
internal HDD with SMARTReporter v2.7.3 (green and pass results, but 
didn't trust them) with its old smartctl version since I couldn't find a 
precompiled build that would work in an updated Mac OS X v10.5.8 
(Leopard) (tried http://builds.smartmontools.org/'s oldest and newest 
daily builds: "Operation could not be completed. 
(com.apple.installer.pagecontroller error -1.) -- Couldn't open 
'smartmontools-6.5...pkg" (is there a compiled build that exist?). Is 
short test passed, but its long test failed as shown below:


smartctl 5.41 2011-04-06 r3314 [i386-apple-darwin9.8.0] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Hitachi Travelstar 5K250
Device Model:     Hitachi HTS542520K9SA00
Serial Number:    080729BB2D10WHGMxxxx
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000cca 532c8fe94
Firmware Version: BBDAC3GP
User Capacity:    200,049,647,616 bytes [200 GB]
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   8
ATA Standard is:  ATA-8-ACS revision 3f
Local Time is:    Sat Mar 12 15:33:26 2016 PST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00)	Offline data collection activity
					was never started.
					Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      ( 121)	The previous self-test completed 
having
					the read element of the test failed.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: 		(  645) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: 			 (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
					Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
					Suspend Offline collection upon new
					command.
					Offline surface scan supported.
					Self-test supported.
					No Conveyance Self-test supported.
					Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)	Saves SMART data before entering
					power-saving mode.
					Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)	Error logging supported.
					General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: 	 (   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: 	 (  96) minutes.
SCT capabilities: 	       (0x003d)	SCT Status supported.
					SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
					SCT Feature Control supported.
					SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE 
UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
   1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   099   099   062    Pre-fail 
Always       -       196608
   2 Throughput_Performance  0x0005   100   100   040    Pre-fail 
Offline      -       0
   3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0007   243   243   033    Pre-fail 
Always       -       1
   4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0012   095   095   000    Old_age 
Always       -       9068
   5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   005    Pre-fail 
Always       -       0
   7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000b   100   100   067    Pre-fail 
Always       -       0
   8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0005   100   100   040    Pre-fail 
Offline      -       0
   9 Power_On_Hours          0x0012   067   067   000    Old_age 
Always       -       14813
  10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   060    Pre-fail 
Always       -       0
  12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   098   098   000    Old_age 
Always       -       4024
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x000a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always 
       -       0
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always 
       -       8591638686
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0012   069   069   000    Old_age   Always 
       -       317269
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0002   189   189   000    Old_age   Always 
       -       29 (Min/Max 16/49)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x000a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always 
       -       0
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always 
       -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always 
       -       1
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0008   100   100   000    Old_age 
Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x000a   200   200   000    Old_age   Always 
       -       0
223 Load_Retry_Count        0x000a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always 
       -       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 16 (device log contains only the most recent five errors)
	CR = Command Register [HEX]
	FR = Features Register [HEX]
	SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
	SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
	CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
	CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
	DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
	DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
	ER = Error register [HEX]
	ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 16 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 5450 hours (227 days + 2 hours)
   When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was 
active or idle.

   After command completion occurred, registers were:
   ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
   -- -- -- -- -- -- --
   40 51 10 18 dc 0f 40  Error: UNC 16 sectors at LBA = 0x000fdc18 = 1039384

   Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
   CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
   -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
   25 00 10 18 dc 0f 40 00      00:00:30.400  READ DMA EXT
   25 00 10 18 dc 0f 40 00      00:00:26.300  READ DMA EXT
   25 00 10 18 dc 0f 40 00      00:00:22.200  READ DMA EXT
   25 00 10 18 dc 0f 40 00      00:00:18.100  READ DMA EXT
   2f 00 01 10 00 00 00 00      00:00:18.000  READ LOG EXT

Error 15 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 5450 hours (227 days + 2 hours)
   When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was 
active or idle.

   After command completion occurred, registers were:
   ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
   -- -- -- -- -- -- --
   40 51 10 18 dc 0f 40  Error: UNC 16 sectors at LBA = 0x000fdc18 = 1039384

   Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
   CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
   -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
   25 00 10 18 dc 0f 40 00      00:00:26.300  READ DMA EXT
   25 00 10 18 dc 0f 40 00      00:00:22.200  READ DMA EXT
   25 00 10 18 dc 0f 40 00      00:00:18.100  READ DMA EXT
   2f 00 01 10 00 00 00 00      00:00:18.000  READ LOG EXT
   60 10 c8 18 dc 0f 40 00      00:00:13.800  READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 14 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 5450 hours (227 days + 2 hours)
   When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was 
active or idle.

   After command completion occurred, registers were:
   ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
   -- -- -- -- -- -- --
   40 51 10 18 dc 0f 40  Error: UNC 16 sectors at LBA = 0x000fdc18 = 1039384

   Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
   CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
   -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
   25 00 10 18 dc 0f 40 00      00:00:22.200  READ DMA EXT
   25 00 10 18 dc 0f 40 00      00:00:18.100  READ DMA EXT
   2f 00 01 10 00 00 00 00      00:00:18.000  READ LOG EXT
   60 10 c8 18 dc 0f 40 00      00:00:13.800  READ FPDMA QUEUED
   60 10 c0 f2 31 0f 40 00      00:00:13.800  READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 13 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 5450 hours (227 days + 2 hours)
   When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was 
active or idle.

   After command completion occurred, registers were:
   ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
   -- -- -- -- -- -- --
   40 51 10 18 dc 0f 40  Error: UNC 16 sectors at LBA = 0x000fdc18 = 1039384

   Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
   CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
   -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
   25 00 10 18 dc 0f 40 00      00:00:18.100  READ DMA EXT
   2f 00 01 10 00 00 00 00      00:00:18.000  READ LOG EXT
   60 10 c8 18 dc 0f 40 00      00:00:13.800  READ FPDMA QUEUED
   60 10 c0 f2 31 0f 40 00      00:00:13.800  READ FPDMA QUEUED
   61 10 b8 58 c2 0f 40 00      00:00:13.800  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED

Error 12 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 4750 hours (197 days + 22 
hours)
   When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was 
active or idle.

   After command completion occurred, registers were:
   ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
   -- -- -- -- -- -- --
   40 51 10 38 fa 06 40  Error: UNC 16 sectors at LBA = 0x0006fa38 = 457272

   Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
   CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
   -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
   25 00 10 38 fa 06 40 00      00:00:29.600  READ DMA EXT
   25 00 10 38 fa 06 40 00      00:00:25.500  READ DMA EXT
   25 00 10 38 fa 06 40 00      00:00:21.400  READ DMA EXT
   25 00 10 38 fa 06 40 00      00:00:17.400  READ DMA EXT
   2f 00 01 10 00 00 00 00      00:00:17.300  READ LOG EXT

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining 
LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       90%     14811 
      33621728
# 2  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     14811 
      -
# 3  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      2408 
      -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
  SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
     1        0        0  Not_testing
     2        0        0  Not_testing
     3        0        0  Not_testing
     4        0        0  Not_testing
     5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
   After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.


What do you think? Thank you in advance. :)
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