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Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95

From	jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers
Subject	Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
Date	2015-07-30 11:50 +0000
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Stephen Sprunk wrote:
> On 29-Jul-15 06:59, jmfbahciv wrote:
>> Stephen Sprunk wrote:
>>> On 28-Jul-15 07:11, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>> Stephen Sprunk wrote:
>>>>> On 22-Jul-15 07:20, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>> The interest wasn't taxed; occasionally, there was long or
>>>>>> short term gains and sometimes a a capital gains
>>>>>> distribution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Long- and short-term capital gains comprise capital gains; they
>>>>> are not different things.
>>>>
>>>> They are taxed differently.
>>>
>>> I know that.  However, your wording implies that long- and
>>> short-term capital gains are somehow difference from capital gains.
>>> They aren't.
>>
>> You could also read the wording to imply that they are treated
>> differently for income tax...which is what I was talking about.
>
> Long- and short-term capital gains are the two types of capital gains.
>
> Therefore, how can long- and short-term capital gains have a different
> tax rate from capital gains?  That makes no sense.

I don't know what you are arguing about.  You snipped the context.
A tax-free muni fund can generate taxable items.  Some are long-term;
some are short-term and others were capital gain distributions.
The first two require a Schedule D for income tax.  The last one
is a line item on the 1040.  Most of the time, one didn't know
there was going to be taxable items until the December statement
was sent.

>
>>>>>> Munis disappeared a few years ago because of some program
>>>>>> Obama had which allowed taxable bonds to be issued with a
>>>>>> lower rate than munis.
>>>>>
>>>>> Blatantly incorrect on all counts.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps in your state, not mine.
>>>
>>> Federal laws are uniform.
>>
>> WTF does that have to do with this?  New issues in this state, during
>> that time period were taxable.  So I got corporate bonds whose
>> interest rate was 3 times the taxable munis.
>
> Obama made no changes to how the federal govt taxes muni bonds.

His program subsidized muni bond issues; these bonds had a lower
interest rate (less than 2%) but were taxable.  If I had to pay
tax on interest, buying a corporate bond at 6% or 7% was better.

>
> If your state screwed up their own taxation of muni bonds, then that is
> their fault, not Obama's.

Whatever.  You have your mind set in cement.

/BAH

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Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-20 12:50 -0500
  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-21 12:53 +0000
    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-07-21 08:49 -0500
      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-21 10:50 -0500
      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-22 12:20 +0000
        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-07-22 13:56 +0000
          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-23 12:22 +0000
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          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-23 12:22 +0000
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        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-27 09:04 -0500
          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-28 09:25 -0500
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-29 11:59 +0000
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-07-29 13:35 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-30 11:50 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-07-31 06:35 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-31 12:13 +0000
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-29 08:45 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-07-29 10:28 -0400
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-30 11:50 +0000
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                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "JHY" <JHY5566@nospam.com> - 2015-07-31 06:05 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-30 09:51 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-30 11:50 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-07-30 08:04 -0500
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                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-07-31 06:58 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-07-31 12:13 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-31 09:51 -0500
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-31 11:47 -0500
    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-07-21 10:48 -0500
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