Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users”

Subject	Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users”
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
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From	CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
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Date	2026-04-21 18:53 -0400

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On 2026-04-21 5:41 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> Interview with Framework CEO Nirav Patel
> <https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/04/frameworks-ceo-on-the-ram-crisis-and-creating-a-macbook-pro-for-linux-users/>.
> Framework, the maker of configurable laptops, is naturally a
> Linux-heavy, but not a Linux-exclusive, company:
> 
>      “... on Framework Laptop 13, we actually have slightly more Linux
>      users than Windows users. It’s something like 55/45 [Linux versus
>      Windows] on the 13. It varies on our different products. The
>      [Framework Laptop] 16 is a bit more Windows heavy.”
> 
> Also:
> 
>      The company is also trying to capture Mac users, which was one
>      reason Framework shifted from a trackpad with a physical clicking
>      mechanism to a haptic trackpad like the ones Apple has used in
>      most MacBooks over the past decade.
> 
> Yes, there are actually enough Mac users that want to switch to
> Framework machines, for this to matter. And the headline quote:
> 
>      “Increasingly over the last five years, especially software
>      developers come in because they want Linux and they want it on
>      hardware that supports it as a first-class experience,” Patel told
>      Ars. “And so really a lot of the philosophy behind the [Framework
>      Laptop 13] Pro was ‘let’s build essentially the MacBook Pro for
>      Linux users. Let’s take the software that they want, the distro
>      that they prefer, and then make sure that the hardware experience
>      lives up to what they would expect coming from a MacBook Pro.’”

Framework might get some of the components to work as well as they do on 
a Mac, but the reality is that the operating system itself won't please 
users looking for elegance, and the hardware Framework provides won't 
appeal to customers looking for the aesthetics of a Mac. Framework's 
machines don't look very pretty, and they are visibly put together from 
a variety of components. While there are obvious benefits when something 
breaks, most Apple users are content to just bring their machine to 
Apple for their professionals to look at it rather than order a new USB 
port, a new keyboard or a new motherboard depending on what broke. The 
machines are also x86-based, which means that you will constantly be 
hearing the fans turn on. That also means that energy efficiency will be 
poor, with a charge lasting four of five hours rather than a whole day.

If this were 2012, Framework would have a chance. In 2026, it's easy to 
disregard by all but the most dedicated tinkerers.

-- 
CrudeSausage
M4 MacBook Air

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Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-21 21:41 +0000
  Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-21 18:53 -0400
    Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-22 00:59 +0000
      Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-21 21:26 -0400
      Re: Framework�s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a �MacBook Pro for Linux users� chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-04-22 07:10 -0500
        Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-24 16:56 -0700
          Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-04-26 11:37 -0500
            Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-26 19:13 -0700
              Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-04-27 06:56 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-27 17:50 +0000
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-27 15:02 -0400
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-04-27 16:52 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-27 19:54 -0400
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-04-28 00:12 +0000
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-04-28 07:10 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-28 09:34 -0400
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-04-30 06:27 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-28 18:47 +0000
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-04-28 15:21 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-04-30 06:39 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-30 17:38 +0000
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-05-01 01:55 +0000
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-01 07:22 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-01 08:56 -0700
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Anonymous <anonttymous@localhost.com> - 2026-05-01 13:46 -0400
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-01 10:47 -0700
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-01 16:22 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-01 14:24 -0700
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-05-01 17:21 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2026-05-01 22:30 +0000
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-01 15:48 -0700
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-05-01 15:49 -0700
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-04-28 14:53 +0000
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-04-28 13:17 -0400
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-04-28 15:24 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-04-30 06:44 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook  Pro for Linux users vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-05-01 01:57 +0000
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-28 18:51 +0000
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-27 16:57 -0700
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-04-28 06:34 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2026-04-28 07:05 -0500
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-04-28 13:13 -0400
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-28 13:53 -0400
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-04-28 08:09 -0400
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-28 09:07 -0400
                Re: Frameworks CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a MacBook Pro for Linux users Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-29 13:16 -0700
      Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2026-04-22 13:37 -0400
      Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-04-24 16:56 -0700
        Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-04-24 20:20 -0400
      Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-26 19:35 +0200
        Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-26 18:32 +0000
        Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-27 01:18 +0000
          Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-27 07:22 +0000
            Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-27 09:59 +0200
            Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-27 08:43 -0400
          Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-27 09:57 +0200
          Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-27 10:20 +0200
            Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-04-27 17:48 +0000
              Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-04-27 21:16 +0200
          Re: Framework’s CEO on the RAM crisis and creating a “MacBook Pro for Linux users” CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-04-27 08:42 -0400

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