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Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution)

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech
Subject	Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution)
Date	2017-04-25 09:56 -0700
Message-ID	<D524CDB1.A1AC6%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
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On 4/25/17, 9:33 AM, in article s2uufctc17ail0qmfqfc09u4hhsge9kiki@4ax.com,
"Ken Blake" <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

...
>>> I don't think I have to be "pure," but I use only a single operating
>>> system--Windows 10.  It's hard enough to remember everything I know
>>> about Windows 10; I don't want to also try to remember other operating
>>> systems.
>> 
>> I have no issue with that though I do think it you want to be a "techie" it
>> makes sense to be familiar with other systems.
> 
> I don't want to be a "techie"; I don't even like that word.

Fair enough. There are many of us "geeky" types who look at others who are
not "techie" and belittle them for not knowing what WE like to look at.
Heck, many techies look at each other and belittle them because they are not
into their specific area of technology. I find that absurd -- we each have
our own strengths and areas of interest.

> If by "techie," you mean someone who makes his living servicing other
> people's computers, I agree with you, but that's not me. Although most
> of my career was with computers, it was mostly mainframes, and I've
> long been retired. I occasionally help friends and relatives with
> their computers, but only if they run Windows.

Sounds like you are a reasonably knowledgably use who knows how to do what
you want and need, can often figure things out on your own and even help
others, but does not really focus on the technology for the sake of
technology.

Which is fine.

I tend to focus on usability issues, and even then how people would get
common work done. One that I talked about some time ago in the tech forum I
am reading this in was the simple and fairly common task of getting a web
resource you might print (such as a recipe, map, lesson plan, art project,
or whatever) and instead of printing it converting it to a PDF to email to
someone and to have some notes or annotations on it.

This can be done on Windows (and Linux) fairly easily: "print" to PDF, open
up in software that does the annotation, and then email the saved output.
Not a big deal. I noted macOS has a more streamlined workflow that I like
(or really choice of workflows).

Years later many in the Linux group still mock me over showing this... even
as they show delving into the command line and using arcane commands few
"common" users would ever be willing to even try (which is fine... not
putting them down for that but noting they are working on the fringes of
use, not common use as I am).

Anyway, the fact I care about usability in such a way shows I am a "techie"
in a way you likely are not. :)

>> Where I find people to be absurd, though, is when they get mad at someone for
>> not being a "real" user of whatever OS because they also use other OSs.
> 
> That's not me either. I don't care what you or anyone else uses,
> whether it's one operating system or many. And I have next to no
> opinions about Linux or Macintosh operating systems, because I know
> next to nothing about them. If someone asks me for help with a
> Macintosh, my standard reply is "I can't even spell 'Macnitosh.' "

Hey, makes sense to not be able to spell it given how Apple misspelled the
name of the fruit! :)

>> Me: I say use what you like.
> 
> Ditto!

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 01:04 +0100
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 17:06 -0700
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 01:08 +0100
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 17:11 -0700
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-24 08:07 -0500
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 14:28 +0100
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-24 14:00 -0500
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 10:34 -0700
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 19:18 +0100
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 11:24 -0700
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-24 14:15 -0500
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 12:19 -0700
        Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-24 15:40 -0400
          Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 12:48 -0700
            Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-24 15:19 -0500
              Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 14:27 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-25 11:16 -0500
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 09:31 -0700
            Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-24 15:21 -0500
              Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 14:38 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-24 22:43 +0000
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-24 17:43 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 18:09 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-25 09:33 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 09:56 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-25 10:16 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 11:30 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Sam E <why.should.this@be.email.invalid> - 2017-04-25 11:23 -0500
          Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-04-24 14:57 -0500
            Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-24 17:50 -0700
              Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-04-25 00:17 -0500
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-25 07:59 -0400
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-04-25 11:34 -0500
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2017-04-25 09:51 -0400
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-25 09:48 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-25 09:54 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-04-25 13:31 -0500
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-25 12:26 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 13:18 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-25 15:25 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 15:33 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-25 15:53 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 16:18 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-25 17:18 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-25 22:37 -0400
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-04-26 10:22 -0500
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 11:59 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-25 15:39 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 16:17 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2017-04-26 11:40 -0400
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-26 09:06 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-26 09:38 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2017-04-26 15:31 -0400
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                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-26 16:41 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) "NY" <me@privacy.net> - 2017-04-27 14:16 +0100
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2017-04-27 09:55 -0400
              Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 13:22 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-25 15:50 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 16:30 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-25 18:55 -0500
          Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-24 15:11 -0500
          Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-24 17:39 -0700
            Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 18:42 -0700
              Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-25 09:53 -0700
                Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 10:52 -0700
            Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2017-04-24 23:59 -0500
              Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2017-04-25 09:54 -0700
          Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2017-04-25 15:29 +0000
            Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-25 09:01 -0700
              Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 09:26 -0700
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-24 14:22 -0500
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 12:30 -0700
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2017-04-24 15:04 -0500
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 15:52 -0700

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