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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech |
| Subject | Re: Phonemes (was Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution) |
| Date | 2017-04-25 09:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D524C6DC.A1AA2%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink) |
| References | (22 earlier) <9MmLA.36316$i_1.9797@fx35.iad> <W8sLA.150621$7%3.99475@fx33.iad> <twsLA.18453$lj7.12809@fx25.iad> <odnq05$31a$2@pcls7.std.com> <2017042509010494091-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> |
Cross-posted to 4 groups.
On 4/25/17, 9:01 AM, in article
2017042509010494091-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, "Savageduck"
<savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2017-04-25 15:29:09 +0000, moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael
> Moroney) said:
>
>> Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> writes:
>>
>>> There are between 37 and 44 phonemes in English, depending on which
>>> dialects you speak (and how the phonemes are counted). A phoneme is a
>>> sound that contrasts with another to make a different word, eg
>>> bull/pull, bull/ball/bell/bale/etc. The main difference between dialects
>>> is the number of vowels. Eg, in "John went to marry merry Mary", I say
>>> three different vowels in those last three words, while an American will
>>> likely use the same vowel for all.
>>
>> I have no references, but I once heard that a language researcher could tell
>> rather closely where an American was raised by hearing them say only 3 words:
>> marry merry Mary.
>
> For me the double "rr" in "marry", and the single "r" in "Mary" have
> control of the "a" making the pronunciation difference in those two
> words easier to discern. The tougher pair to separate are "merry" and
> "Mary" where the difference is much more subtle, but are also
> controlled by the following consonants "r" or "rr".
>
> I guess that is one reason the more easily differentiated "Marie" isn't
> included in that test.
I hear it more in where the emphasis is put on the words than the sounds
themselves... though I also hear some difference there. Not fully accurate,
of course, but here are computer generated speaking of the sentence:
<https://youtu.be/EuUTsNQdICM>
Would be interesting to look at the pronunciation videos where real people
say the words... and then play those sounds and see who can guess which is
which.
--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.
They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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