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Re: OT: "Every American"...

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On 2/8/17, 9:53 PM, in article slrno9ntdr.ftq.timmcn@sugaree.local, "Tim
McNamara" <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 07 Feb 2017 18:35:55 -0700, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
> wrote:
>> On 2/7/17, 4:58 PM, in article slrno9knpp.esd.timmcn@sugaree.local,
>> "Tim McNamara" <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, 08 Feb 2017 10:20:07 +1100, dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> In article <slrno9iel2.di4.timmcn@sugaree.local>,
>>>>  Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ... (I snip much with which I agree)
>>>> 
>>>>> As for "something is wrong with the political system," any
>>>>> political system that could elect Donald J Trump is clearly
>>>>> malfunctioning.
>>>> 
>>>> Not so clearly! Putting aside the gerrymandering of the Electoral
>>>> Colleges and the dirty business by some state power elites to make
>>>> it harder for some people to register or vote, and even putting
>>>> aside the particular case of the recent USA election, a population
>>>> of any country which, eyes wide open, supports a clearly misogynist
>>>> racist irrational incoherent nasty bully, is not necessarily a fault
>>>> of the *political system*.
>>> 
>>> Ah, hmmm, (uncomfortable shuffling of feet).  Well, ummm....
>>> 
>>> Yep.
>> 
>> Do you hold Clinton accountable for her efforts to twist the election
>> and stop people from voting? Do you hold those accountable for the
>> cheating that helped her? Are you even aware of those things?
>> 
>> To me, BOTH are wrong.
> 
> I don't hold her accountable for bullshit ravings about things that
> didn't happen.  I don't wear a tinfoil hat, either.

Irreverent. Keep in mind I have pointed you to direct videos of Bill Clinton
blocking people from voting, I have shown you videos of multiple eye
witnesses saying election hand counts being forged, etc. We can debate the
effect of these things and how widespread they were, but we KNOW, for a
fact, they happened.

> You're free to dislike her for whatever reason you want.  I didn't have
> the same reaction to her that many of the posters here have written.
> And it no longer matters, since her active political career is over.

It does not matter in that neither Clinton nor Sanders are likely to run for
president again. But if Democrats do not recognize their mistakes then we
are likely to end up with eight years of Trump (not to mention a right wing
legislative branch). We should embrace something closer to Sander's stance
than to Clinton's if we want to win.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-02-05 17:21 -0600
  Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-02-06 09:55 +0000
    Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-02-06 21:10 -0600
      Re: OT: "Every American"... dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2017-02-08 10:20 +1100
        Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-02-07 17:58 -0600
          Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-07 18:35 -0700
            Re: OT: "Every American"... Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-02-08 22:53 -0600
              Re: OT: "Every American"... Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-02-08 20:57 -0800
              Re: OT: "Every American"... FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 05:22 -0500
              Re: OT: "Every American"... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-02-09 08:41 -0700

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