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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day |
| Date | 2012-06-18 20:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <CC054078.3933%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink) |
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On 6/18/12 7:39 PM, in article 4fdfe64c$0$1670$c3e8da3$f017e9df@news.astraweb.com, "Voodoo Magoo" <voodoo@thats.me.com> wrote: ... >>> oh geez, another one of these. >> >> Yes, another person who rejects the unsupported boogieman claims and >> looks to the evidence. >> >> The bane of the herd. > > and everyone copies apple. Do you have evidence of this? And what scope? I mean you likely do not mean toothpaste makers... do you? > we all have our boogiemen. Not sure I follow. >>> if you want to keep up with industry news you will have to show some >>> initiative. despite the demands of the windows herd, i will not hand >>> hold you all through a phd level class on microsofts activities. >>> >>> start with googling these words ->barnes+and+noble+microsoft+patents<- >>> >>> it is easy to find. very easy. >> >> In other words you want me to do research for you... and you want me to >> find accusations which may or may not be true and may or may not back >> your claim. You go on and on and on... but never back your claims. You do have a list of accusations. Not very interesting. Bottom line: you cannot back your claims. ... >>> why is more or less money important to you? if it is less does that >>> mean you will forgive their getting money for nothing? >> >> Getting money for nothing? No, I do not forgive those that produce and >> sell Android for getting money for nothing... no more than I would if MS >> or someone else were doing so. > > "if ms were doing so" ... but snit, ms IS doing so. Great evidence! Oh. You have none. >>>> I admit: I do not know what MS technology is in Android. Do you? If >>>> so, what? >>> >>> microsoft has patents on things that are trivial to think up. some of >>> these patented ideas are in android. that is why ms is making demands. >>> i do not have a breakdown of patents involved. microsoft is not >>> telling. the only window that opened up is from the barnes and nobel >>> case. >>> >>> what does this have to do with microsoft getting money for nothing? do >>> you really think they have contributed something substantial? barnes >>> and nobel thinks otherwise. >> >> So you disagree with the patents. Got it. So? > > again, what does this have to do with microsoft getting money for > nothing? what i think of the patent situation makes no difference. the > plain fact is that microsoft is getting money for the work and labor of > other people. they have a patent that lets them do this. they are turning > into freetards, parasites. You are making this accusation... but not showing MS making money from Android or Android sellers making money from MS. So is Android using MS technology? Yes or no? MS says yes. Google says no. Is it possible each thinks they are right? Why not? No foul play needed to understand that! >> Yes, the system is screwed up... but that is not the fault of MS. And >> how else should MS and Apple and others handle those who plagiarize >> their work? How should those who Apple and MS plagiarize handle it? >> Just accept it and give up on trying to be fair and reasonable? > > what an odd concept of plagiarizing work you have. help me to understand. > i need to visualize this plagiarize thing for the android situation. here > are some possibilities. Is Android plagiarizing MS? Clearly Samsung has been plagiarizing Apple... but the case for Android with iOS and MS products is not as clear, at least not to me. > one: a team of android workers and managers gather around a table and go > over microsoft's source code looking for things to copy into android. > what do you think of this idea? you are not a loon so you will reject > this out of hand. I said nothing of source code. > two: a team of android workers and managers gather around a table and go > over microsoft's patent collection looking for things to copy into > android. what do you think of this idea? you are not a loon so you will > reject this out of hand. I said nothing of looking over their patent collection... though the undoubtedly are looking at the competitors products (as do MS and Apple... and many in the open source community). > three (my favorite): a team of android workers and managers gather around > a table and ignore everything microsoft has done. they go over the > requirements for their product and come up with solutions, then do the > work to implement their plan. some time later, microsoft shows up with > claims of patent infringement and demands money. this does not require > any fantasy of improper copying things that are not available (source) or > copying things that are incomprehensible (patents). this does not require > plagiarization, or theft, or any type of contribution by microsoft into > the android environment as dfs claimed. So you are not aware that companies look at each other's products? Really? > do you have another scenario to add to this list? you will have to help > me here. i cannot form a picture that will fit your pieces together. At least you admit to your lack of understanding. Competitors look at each others products - esp. ones that do well in the market - and get ideas. To some extent this is OK... but it is not OK to cross a line and plagiarize. Unfortunately this line is fuzzy. This is not a black and white issue. Does that help you to understand? >>>>>>>> Looks like you're an uninformed idiot. Again. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the propaganda machine babbles. again. >>>>>> >>>>>> You are belittling others while you make unsubstantiated >>>>>> accusations. >>>>> >>>>> but no complaint about blizzard? do you see him with a personality >>>>> defect and automatically forgive him for it? maybe you are ok with >>>>> belittling with propaganda. whatever. >>>> >>>> What or who is blizzard? >>> >>> dfs. flake does not cover the power and scope of his personality. >> >> Ah, just name calling from you. Got it. > > yes. dfs is just a propaganda bot and does not rate the emotional > stirring that goes with an insult. i will drop the blizzard tag. Well, he does make up bizarre claims and runs when questioned about them. No doubt. But I still do not support name calling. -- The indisputable facts about that absurd debate: <http://goo.gl/2337P> cc being proved wrong about his stats BS: <http://goo.gl/1aYrP> 7 simple questions cc will *never* answer: <http://goo.gl/cNBzu> cc again pretends to be knowledgeable about things he is clueless about.
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Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Hardon <hardon.quirk@gmail.com> - 2012-06-11 12:41 +0000
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-06-11 16:53 +0100
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day "Clogwog" <clogwog@anon.eu> - 2012-06-11 22:15 +0200
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-11 16:22 -0400
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-06-13 12:37 +0100
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day "Clogwog" <clogwog@anon.eu> - 2012-06-13 19:14 +0200
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-06-13 19:30 +0100
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day "Clogwog" <clogwog@anon.eu> - 2012-06-15 21:35 +0200
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-15 15:48 -0400
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Voodoo Magoo <voodoo@thats.me.com> - 2012-06-16 18:42 +0000
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-17 12:23 -0400
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Voodoo Magoo <voodoo@thats.me.com> - 2012-06-17 18:54 +0000
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-17 23:40 -0400
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Voodoo Magoo <voodoo@thats.me.com> - 2012-06-18 05:17 +0000
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-17 22:34 -0700
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Voodoo Magoo <voodoo@thats.me.com> - 2012-06-18 05:59 +0000
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-17 23:25 -0700
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Voodoo Magoo <voodoo@thats.me.com> - 2012-06-18 08:23 +0000
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2012-06-18 06:07 -0400
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-18 09:19 -0400
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-18 09:46 -0700
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Voodoo Magoo <voodoo@thats.me.com> - 2012-06-19 02:39 +0000
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-18 20:30 -0700
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Voodoo Magoo <voodoo@thats.me.com> - 2012-06-19 05:23 +0000
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-19 08:58 -0400
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Voodoo Magoo <voodoo@thats.me.com> - 2012-06-19 14:50 +0000
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-19 18:45 -0400
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Voodoo Magoo <voodoo@thats.me.com> - 2012-06-20 02:09 +0000
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-18 22:56 -0700
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Voodoo Magoo <voodoo@thats.me.com> - 2012-06-20 05:12 +0000
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2012-06-20 06:46 -0500
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-20 09:18 -0700
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Voodoo Magoo <voodoo@thats.me.com> - 2012-06-21 02:50 +0000
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-20 21:07 -0700
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Voodoo Magoo <voodoo@thats.me.com> - 2012-06-21 07:52 +0000
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-21 09:41 -0700
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Voodoo Magoo <voodoo@thats.me.com> - 2012-06-22 01:32 +0000
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-21 22:25 -0700
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2012-06-22 08:05 +0100
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-22 07:39 -0700
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Voodoo Magoo <voodoo@thats.me.com> - 2012-06-23 03:15 +0000
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-22 20:41 -0700
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Voodoo Magoo <voodoo@thats.me.com> - 2012-06-23 04:10 +0000
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-22 21:21 -0700
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Voodoo Magoo <voodoo@thats.me.com> - 2012-06-27 03:08 +0000
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-26 20:38 -0700
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Voodoo Magoo <voodoo@thats.me.com> - 2012-06-27 05:50 +0000
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-26 23:28 -0700
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Voodoo Magoo <voodoo@thats.me.com> - 2012-06-27 06:40 +0000
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-27 00:06 -0700
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2012-06-27 06:03 -0400
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-27 08:56 -0700
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2012-06-23 06:41 -0400
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2012-06-25 07:25 -0500
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-22 11:55 -0400
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Voodoo Magoo <voodoo@thats.me.com> - 2012-06-23 01:05 +0000
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-22 22:19 -0400
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Nobody <invalid@invalid.com> - 2012-06-24 08:19 -0500
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-11 17:09 -0400
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2012-06-11 17:12 -0400
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-11 17:31 -0400
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-06-13 12:35 +0100
Re: Andy Rubin says Android activations hit 900k a day bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-06-13 19:23 +0100
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