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| Date | 2011-06-03 18:50 -0500 |
|---|---|
| Subject | Re: how? |
| From | George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> |
| Newsgroups | comp.programming, comp.sys.mac.misc, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.hacker |
| Message-ID | <CA0EDD6C.6F17F%ghost_topper@hotmail.com> (permalink) |
| References | <00addd67-75e8-4a93-85ed-d6aadba6dae2@q12g2000prb.googlegroups.com> <vilain-E96EAD.16420203062011@news.individual.net> |
Cross-posted to 4 groups.
On 6/3/11 6:42 PM, in article vilain-E96EAD.16420203062011@news.individual.net, "Michael Vilain" <vilain@NOspamcop.net> wrote: > In article > <00addd67-75e8-4a93-85ed-d6aadba6dae2@q12g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, > RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> There was a recent news item, an Apple Mac was >> stolen. He had anti-theft software installed, which >> snapped pictures at regular intervals through the webcam. >> >> Then it said he activated the program remotely, >> to send him the pictures, and the thief was eventually >> caught. >> >> My question is, how the heck did he accomplish this >> 'remote control'? Like, he sent a virus to the machine, >> or what? >> >> >> -- >> Rich > > As soon as laptop is connected to the internet, the pre-installed > anti-theft software checks in with the anti-theft database on the > server. If it's flagged as stolen or "track me", then certain > pre-installed services are turned on. The network and camera report > information on the IP address to the anti-theft site. I don't know if > laptops have any sort of GPS like an iTouch or iPhone, so that may be > also tracked. If WiFi network is used, there's probably additional info > that can be added to the database. AFAIK, you can't install this > software after the fact. > <http://hiddenapp.com/> explains how it works and it cannot be done after the theft. There are no GPS, but can be pretty accurate in urban areas of to less than a mile according to their FYI. Not bad for $15 a year... > If the thief had just pulled the hard drive or booted off a MacOS > install media and reformatted the drive and reinstalled the OS, there > wouldn't have been a problem. The pre-installed tracking software would > have been gone. AFAIK, there's nothing in any of the boot PROMs on > either Macintosh or PC that does this sort of tracking without software. > And you have to connect to the Internet to send information back. > Most thieves aren't that sophisticated in the real world. > This sort of anti-theft software has been around for a while now. A > school system used it to spy on their students getting the VP and head > of IT fired for invading the privacy of the students and the school > district sued by the parents of the student that uncovered the spying.
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how? RichD <r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-03 15:13 -0700
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Re: how? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2011-06-06 16:14 -0700
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Re: how? Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2011-06-07 12:05 -0700
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Re: how? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2011-06-07 17:46 -0700
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Re: how? Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net> - 2011-06-11 18:44 -0600
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