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Re: Cola, the car group

Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date 2017-04-24 14:59 -0700
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Subject Re: Cola, the car group
From -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>

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On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 4:24:58 PM UTC-4, owl wrote:
> -hh wrote:
> > On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 3:08:32 PM UTC-4, owl wrote:
> >> -hh wrote:
> >> > On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 1:35:52 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote:
> >> >> > lying asshole "-hh" wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> And of course in some parts of Europe (mostly Germany?) there's 
> >> >> >> also a 'debadged' customer behavior where owners of a higher end 
> >> >> >> model aren't as overt about what they drive...because of the
> >> >> >> animosity that can happen just as we've seen here on COLA.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Please provide evidence of COLA "animosity" against owners of
> >> >> "higher end" cars, -highhorse.  
> >> > 
> >> > Well, the plethora of posts & posters that have latched onto this 
> >> > thread since I first made comment is certain proof of motivation!
> >> > And the simplest explanation (IAW Occam's Razor) is jealousy.
> >> >
> >> 
> >> It must be jealousy!  It must be!
> >>
> >> >> Owl's objections to your Macan is not that it's "high end".  
> >> >> He likes the 911, which is higher-end than your Macan.
> >> > 
> >> > Incorrect:  Owl made a stupid software claim and got called
> >> > on it...so he's now trying to get revenge.  
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> Incorrect:  You once again tried to shift a discussion of Latex 
> >> delivering pwnage to MS Word into one of what car people drive:
> >> 
> >> Message-ID: <7028e67f-144f-4af2-ab5e-8c42fb99bc6d@googlegroups.com>
> >> <quote>
> >>   And similarly, claims that their time is worth $150/hour ... but
> >>   in reality, driving the likes of a Subaru or Ford Fiesta.
> >> </quote>
> >> 
> >> "The likes of a Subaru..."  That statement alone should earn 
> >> you a moron prize.
> > 
> > Because the complete context was:
> > 
> > "Poor 'owl' ... claims it takes them 8 hours to run an 
> > install ... another classical example of 'Lying for Linux'. 
> > 
> > And similarly, claims that their time is worth $150/hour
> 
> What I ask in exchange for my time is up to me.  You can
> choose to pay my rate or hire somebody else.  It doesn't
> matter to me.

Considering that your "business cost estimate" was that it'd take
you 8 hours just to install Word, you're clearly not worth even $15/hr.


> > ... but in reality, driving the likes of a Subaru or Ford Fiesta."
> > 
> > The first sentence was noting that the 8 hour claim was
> > a lie,
> 
> 
> That depends on how many updates are waiting, so yeah it
> could be as little as 5 hours I suppose.

Sorry, but most PCs come preinstalled with Windows -- haven't
you ever read any of chris's complaints about how it was cheaper
for him to buy a Windows PC and wipe it?   As such, the most
common use case for this scenario is that only Word was required
on the Windows side (and you still have neglected to clarify just
how many hours it would take for Linux & its tools ... how convenient!)


> > since it pretty much requires total incompetence to 
> > actually need that long IRL merely to install MS-Word.  
> >
> 
> We're talking Windoze too.

Nope:  as per above, the mainstream standard is that it comes preinstalled
on the hardware being purchased. 

 
> > The second was highlighting the implausibility of your $150/hr
> > claim for how much your time supposedly is worth, even before 
> > the revelation of your old Toyota Camry (LE's 2011 MSRP: $21,650).
> 
> You still can't get over the fact that what car people drive
> has nothing whatsoever to do with their wealth or income.

But it can correlate to their lack of wealth / income.  Stop trying
to push the string.  

 
> >> Tell us again how the example PDF I showed is "not a document,"
> >> dumbass.
> > 
> > Since you've already been unable to articulate just what it is 
> > that it would be documenting, quod erat demonstrandum.  
> > 
> 
> Is your dictionary broken?  There is no requirement to document
> anything in a document.   

Broken?  

<<http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define%3A+%20document>>

Nope: 

doc·u·ment
noun
noun: document; plural noun: documents
ˈdäkyəmənt/
1.
a piece of written, printed, or electronic matter that provides information 
or evidence or that serves as an official record.

And here's origins too:

"late Middle English: from Old French, from Latin documentum ‘lesson, 
proof’ (in medieval Latin ‘written instruction, official paper’), from docere ‘teach.’"


As I said, all you have is a bunch of semi-random text:  just what does it
actually _document_?  

When you keep on setting the bar so low for yourself ... you end up with a Camry ;-P


-hh

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